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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (310868)	11/16/2006 12:36:10 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577592

"Earth's climate is constantly changing due to a ton of factors, most of which are beyond our control." It depends on what you mean by "constantly changing". It is a chaotic system, and such systems are stable in that they vary around their strange attractor. So, while it may vary, it always returns to the same point. There are reasons to believe that our global climate is in the process of moving from one strange attractor to another, the growing extremes in summer and winter temps. are exactly what you would expect when that happens. "And by drastic, I don't mean giving up SUVs for hybrids. I mean more, like moving within walking distance to work and to the grocery store, etc." Most who advocate that we need to start doing something now don't advocate those kind of changes. For now, eliminating SUVs as a typical vehicle would be a big start. Use of carbon neutral fuels like biodiesel would be another. Refusing to do anything isn't.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (310868)	11/17/2006 4:38:28 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1577592

As for me, I don't believe there is such a thing as a "point of no return." Earth's climate is constantly changing due to a ton of factors, most of which are beyond our control. Of course when we have 6 billion people on this planet, we will have an impact on the environment no matter what. Global warming is just one of those factors, but one which I don't believe justifies the drastic changes in lifestyle required to reverse it. And by drastic, I don't mean giving up SUVs for hybrids. I mean more, like moving within walking distance to work and to the grocery store, etc. Especially in light of China and India starting to contribute their share of CO2. Whether you believe GW is true or not true is not really the issue. The real issue is whether any of us are willing to risk that it is true and that its impact will be as great or greater than what the scientists are predicting. Those who are willing to make that risk are fatalists and should not be leading the discussion.