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To: ManyMoose who wrote (53739)	11/21/2006 7:20:08 PM
From: longnshort	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

counting cards is legal according to the courts. so the casinos add 7 decks

To: ManyMoose who wrote (53739)	11/21/2006 8:25:10 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

Card counting is legal, you can't be prosecuted for it (at least if you do it in your own head with no mechanical aids), but you can be thrown out of casinos, and added to lists of people not allowed in to casinos (at least Vegas casinos, the casinos in Atlantic City just make card counting as difficult as possible, with multiple decks, shuffling etc.) Casinos don't accept it (or create conditions that make it very hard) because a good card counter can consistently win. Its not just that some people will win a little rather than lose. Its the fact that some people could win millions by consistently having an edge and playing full time. One thing about card counting. In addition to the casinos not liking it, it you get it just a little wrong, your margin goes negative, and often becomes worse than normal perfect play. You have to be right consistently for it to be worthwhile. The MIT students card counted as a team. If you work as a team I think even the Atlantic City casinos can kick you out permanently, and attempts have been made to prosecute people. See en.wikipedia.org

To: ManyMoose who wrote (53739)	11/22/2006 3:29:38 PM
From: Solon	Respond to of 90947

They were all card counters but that was not their basic strategy. They were catching a glimpse of the bottom card when the cut was offered and had mastered cutting 50, 51, 52 cards or whatever. When the bottom card ace came around (or ten, as they eventually would), they would play their hands so as to have big money on the ten spot in their hand even if it required some stupid play by one of more of them steer the ace or ten to the right hand. They had other techniques, as well. Casinos don't care about card counting, per se, anymore. They use 6 or 8 decks and shuffle very early. When they use one or two decks they modify the rules so as to make it practically useless as a technique (resplit aces only once, etc.)