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To: Neeka who wrote (187587)11/23/2006 2:41:28 PM
From: KLP  Respond to of 794387
 
Maybe Prof Bremer doesn't get out much from PA... Americans are probably more welcoming of other culture than any other place in the world.... Or possibly he could name any other large country that represents the entire worlds peoples within its borders. We shouldn't hold our breath.

And that element ... of welcoming the Native Americans, who had a very different culture, is something I think we ought to spend more time thinking about."



To: Neeka who wrote (187587)11/23/2006 2:48:57 PM
From: miraje  Respond to of 794387
 
Despite historians' efforts, Thanksgiving misconceptions endure

That's for sure..

reviewjournal.com

For what do we give our thanks?
Holiday's real history holds lessons for today


As our modern gladiators chase a pigskin down the field in Dallas or Detroit, we settle into our living rooms, loosen our belts and remind the little ones this is the day we echo the thanks of the Pilgrims, who gathered in the autumn of 1621 to celebrate the first bountiful harvest in a new land.

The Pilgrims' first winter in the New World had been a harsh one. The wheat the Pilgrims had brought with them to plant would not grow in the rocky New England soil. Nearly half the colonists died.

But the survivors were hard-working and tenacious, and -- with the help of an English-speaking Wampanoag named Tisquantum (starting a long tradition of refusing to learn three-syllable words, the Pilgrims dubbed him "Squanto") -- they learned how to cultivate corn by using fish for fertilizer, how to dig and cook clams, how to tap the maples for sap. And so they were able to thank the Creator for an abundant harvest that second autumn in a new land.

The only problem with the tale, unfortunately, is that it's not true.

Yes, the Indians did graciously show the new settlers how to raise beans and corn. But in a November 1985 article in The Free Market, a monthly publication of the Ludwig von Mises Institute, author and historian Richard J. Marbury pointed out: "This official story is ... a fairy tale, a whitewashed and sanitized collection of half-truths which divert attention away from Thanksgiving's real meaning."

In his "History of Plymouth Plantation," the governor of the colony, William Bradford, reported that the colonists went hungry for years because they refused to work in the fields, preferring to steal. Gov. Bradford recalled for posterity that the colony was riddled with "corruption and discontent." The crops were small because "much was stolen both by night and day, before it became scarce eatable."

Although in the harvest feasts of 1621 and 1622 "all had their hungry bellies filled," that relief was short-lived, and deaths from illness because of malnutrition continued.

Then, Mr. Marbury points out, "something changed." By harvest time, 1623, Gov. Bradford was reporting that, "Instead of famine now God gave them plenty, and the face of things was changed, to the rejoicing of the hearts of many, for which they blessed God." Why, by 1624, so much food was produced that the colonists actually began exporting corn.

What on earth had transpired?

It was simple enough. In 1623 Gov. Bradford simply "gave each household a parcel of land and told them they could keep what they produced, or trade it away as they saw fit."

Previously, the Mayflower Compact had required that "all profits & benefits that are got by trade, working, fishing, or any other means" were to be placed in the common stock of the colony, and that, "all such persons as are of this colony, are to have their meat, drink, apparel, and all provisions out of the common stock."

A person was to put into the common stock all he could, and take out only what he needed -- a concept so attractive on its surface that it would be adopted as the equally disastrous ruling philosophy for all of Eastern Europe some 300 years later.

"A form of communism was practiced at Plymouth in 1621 and 1622," agrees Tom Bethell of the Hoover Institution in his book "The Noblest Triumph: Property and Prosperity through the Ages."

"Under the arrangement of communal property one might reasonably suspect that any additional effort might merely substitute for the lack of industry of others," Mr. Bethell notes. But once private ownership was substituted, "Knowing that the fruits of his labor would benefit his own family and dependents, the head of each household was given an incentive to work harder."

They say those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. Yes, America is a bounteous land, but the source of that bounty lies not primarily in the fertility of our soil or the frequency of the rains. There is hardly a more fertile breadbasket on the face of the earth than the Ukraine, where for decades crops rotted in the field under a Soviet administration that allowed no farmer a private profit incentive to hire enough help to get the turnips picked.

No, the source of our bounty is the discovery made by the Pilgrims in 1623, that when individuals are allowed to hold their own land as private property, to eat what they raise and keep the profits from any surplus they sell, hard work is rewarded and thus encouraged, and the entire community enjoys prosperity and plenty.

And so it is that on this Thanksgiving Day we ask God's continued blessing on America -- a land blessed most of all by our inherited concept of private property rights, the system that allows each to keep the profit of his sweat and toil -- and for this reason the land of peace and plenty, the envy of mankind, the land of the free.



To: Neeka who wrote (187587)11/23/2006 3:14:18 PM
From: KLP  Respond to of 794387
 
More from the religion of "peace"...144 Die, 236 Hurt in Attacks in Iraq

KLP Note: Maybe this will be a "semi-permanent" barricade around Baghdad...this den of murdering barbarians MUST be cleaned out.

Nov 23, 10:34 AM (ET)

apnews.myway.com





BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Three suicide car bombers and two mortar attacks shook Baghdad's Sadr City Shiite slum Thursday afternoon, killing at least 144 people and wounding 236 others, many of them seriously, police said.

The bombs and mortar shells struck at 15 minute intervals beginning about 3 p.m., with the first suicide bombing striking a vegetable market.

Angry residents and armed militiamen flooded the streets hurling curses at Sunni Muslims. Police said the death toll was expected to rise significantly.

Heavy clashes broke out Thursday afternoon between gunmen and guards at the Shiite-controlled Health Ministry building in north Baghdad, security officials said.


State-run Iraqiyah television said the Health Ministry was being attacked with mortars by "terrorists who are intending to take control of the building."

The security officials said about 30 gunmen, believed to be Sunni insurgents, had launched the attack.

Iraqi troops were being rushed to the area and all roads leading to the ministry in Bab al-Muadham neighborhood were closed, said the security officials on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to reporters.

Police Lt. Ali Muhsin said the attack began at 2:10 p.m. when three mortar shells hit the building, causing damage. After that, gunmen on the upper floors of surrounding buildings opened fire. Ministry workers were trapped in the building, but there were no immediate reports of casualties.

Health Minister Ali al-Shemari is a follower of radical anti-American Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr whose Mahdi Army militia is blamed for killing thousands of Sunni Muslims.

Early Thursday morning, U.S. and Iraqi forces swept into Baghdad's Sadr City slum, killing four Iraqis, wounding eight and detaining five in the latest raid on the Shiite stronghold, police said.

Hours later, a car bomb exploded in a major Sadr City food market, killing at least 10 and wounding 15, police said. Three mortar shells crashed to earth nearby.

About 15 cars were destroyed and ambulances were racing to take away the wounded, said police Col. Hassan Chaloub.

Car bombs in Sadr City in the past months have killed and wounded hundreds.

Police Capt. Mohammed Ismail said coalition forces searched Sadr City houses at about 4:30 a.m. and opened fire on a minivan carrying Iraqi workers in the al-Fallah Street area, causing the deaths and injuries. Iraqis often pay a small fee to crowd into such vehicles and travel early in the morning to sites where they hope to be hired as day laborers.


(AP) British armored vehicles patrol the streets of Basra, Iraq's second-largest city, 550 kilometers...
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In a statement, the U.S. military confirmed the raid and said it was conducted in the continuing effort to find an American soldier who was kidnapped Oct. 23. It confirmed that a vehicle was shot at by Iraqi forces after "displaying hostile intent," but did not report on casualties.

It was the fourth raid in six days on the slum that is home to the Mahdi Army, the militia loyal to radical anti-American Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr. The Mahdi Army is suspected of kidnapping an American soldier last month and taking scores of Iraqi hostages during an attack on a government building in Baghdad on Nov. 14.

Ismail said the coalition also detained five Iraqis during the raid.

Residents of Sadr City gathered around the bloodstained, bullet-riddled minivan.

"I was surprised by the heavy shooting on our minivan. I was hit badly in my left hand," said one worker, Ahmed Gatie, 24, as he was treated at Imam Ali hospital. "I can only feed my family when I work. What will happen now?"


(AP) An Iraqi grieves over the coffin of his killed relative following a coalition attack in Baghdad,...
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Witness Salah Salman, 24, said he and other local residents helped police carry victims of the attack from the minivan to the morgue and hospital.

The raid came weeks after Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, a Shiite, ordered the U.S. military to lift a blockade of the sprawling east Baghdad grid of streets lined with tumbledown concrete block structures and vacant lots.

American forces had sealed the district for several days looking for kidnapped U.S. soldier Ahmed Qusai al-Taayie, a 41-year-old reservist from Ann Arbor, Michigan. He was visiting his Iraqi wife in Baghdad on Oct. 23 when he was handcuffed and abducted by suspected rogue gunmen from the Mahdi Army.

Al-Sadr is a major political backer of al-Maliki, who had rejected American demands to disband the heavily armed militias and their death squads, which have carried out a brutal campaign of revenge attacks on Iraq's Sunni minority in a cycle of violence following the Feb. 22 bombing of a Shiite shrine.

But Al-Maliki has looked the other way during the most recent joint U.S.-Iraqi raids, an about-face his aides said was prompted by anger over the U.S. soldier's abduction and a mass kidnapping carried out by suspected Mahdi Army gunmen. Dozens of gunmen in police uniforms kidnapped scores of people during the raid on a Ministry of Higher Education office in Baghdad on Nov. 14. The ministry is predominantly Sunni Arab.

At least 101 Iraqis were killed Wednesday and the U.N. reported that 3,709 Iraqi civilians were killed in October, the highest monthly toll of the war and one that is likely to be eclipsed when November's dead are counted.

The United Nations Assistance Mission for Iraq also said that citizens were fleeing the country at a pace of 100,000 each month, and that at least 1.6 million Iraqis have left since the war began in March 2003.

Life for Iraqis, especially in Baghdad and cities and towns in the center of the country, has become increasingly untenable. Many schools failed to open at all in September, and professionals - especially professors, physicians, politicians and journalists - are falling to sectarian killers at a stunning rate.

Lynchings have been reported as Sunnis and Shiites conduct a merciless campaign of revenge killings.

The U.N. figure for the number of killings in October was more than three times the 1,216 tabulated by The Associated Press and nearly 840 more than the 2,870 U.S. service members who have died during the war.

The U.S. military on Thursday reported the deaths of three Marines in fighting in Anbar province, where many Sunni Arab insurgents are based.

So far this month, 52 American service members have been killed or died.