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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (312190)	11/24/2006 6:44:15 PM
From: American Spirit	Respond to of 1573092

Nonsense. Noguchi Concluded the RFK Killshot Was Not Sirhan's, Because Sirhan Was Not Up Close Behind RFK, From Where the Killshot Was Made. The only conclusion then was that there was a second gunman, a very discreet professional. "One more issue remained, one that neither Noguchi, the LAPD, nor the witnesses at the crime scene could explain – and one that continues to haunt theorists and historians of the assassination to this day. The shot that both Noguchi and the Los Angeles conclude killed Kennedy – the one that entered the back of his neck, fragmented upon impact and lodged in his brain stem – was fired so close that it left thick powder burns on the skin. Coroner Noguchi estimates (and the LAPD concurs) that the shot was fired at a range no more distant than one-and-a-half inches. Yet, according to all witnesses, Sirhan Sirhan shot in front of Kennedy and, as far as anyone knew, the senator never had the chance to turn his back towards his hunter. Even though Noguchi remained tight-lipped and diplomatic at the time, in his biography that he penned a decade later – entitled Coroner -- he wrote, "Until more is precisely known…the existence of a second gunman remains a possibility. Thus, I have never said that Sirhan Sirhan killed Robert Kennedy." Also, Sirhan seemed to be clearly brainwashed and could not remember shooting RFK. Here again is evidence that he was a possible patsy, showing similar symptoms as Oswald and Ray, basically not knowing what he was doing there or why he did it.

To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (312190)	11/24/2006 6:49:03 PM
From: American Spirit	Respond to of 1573092

James Earl Ray also claimed he was a patsy, got no trial, no real investigation and not even the King family thinks he did it. See the pattern here? "Capture and trial A little more than two months after King's death, on June 8, 1968, Ray, an escaped convict who had broken out of the Missouri State Penitentiary a year before the assassination, was captured at London's Heathrow Airport while trying to leave the United Kingdom on a false Canadian passport in the name of Ramon George Sneyd. Ray was quickly extradited to Tennessee and charged with King's murder, confessing to the assassination on March 10, 1969, (though he recanted this confession three days later) and was sentenced to 99 years in prison. On the advice of his attorney Percy Foreman, Ray took a guilty plea to avoid a trial conviction and therefore the possibility of receiving the death penalty. Ray later fired Foreman as his attorney (from then on derisively calling him "Percy Fourflusher") claiming that a man he met in Montreal, Canada, using the alias "Raoul" had been deeply involved, as was his brother Johnny, but not himself, further asserting that although he didn't "personally shoot Dr. King," he may have been "partially responsible without knowing it," hinting at a conspiracy. He spent the remainder of his life attempting (unsuccessfully) to withdraw his guilty plea and secure the trial he never had. [edit] Escape On June 11, 1977 Ray made his second appearance, this time as the 351st entry, on the FBI Most Wanted Fugitives list. He and six other convicts had just escaped from Brushy Mountain State Penitentiary in Petros, Tennessee on June 10, 1977 shortly after Ray testified that he did not shoot King to the House Select Committee on Assassinations. They were recaptured on June 13 and returned to prison. [1] More years were then added to his sentence for attempting to escape from the penitentiary. [edit] Retrial In 1997 Martin Luther King's son Dexter King met with Ray, and publicly supported Ray's efforts to obtain a retrial. Loyd Jowers was brought to civil court and sued as being part of a conspiracy to murder Martin Luther King; Jowers was found liable, and the King family was awarded $100 in retribution as a sign that they were not following the case for monetary reasons. Some doubt the significance of the trial, especially considering that Jowers had previously confessed to an involvement in the murder, and therefore the trial was less of a case against Jowers than an effort to elaborate on his previous confession. Some historians disagree with the conclusion made by the jury. Dr. William Pepper remained James Earl Ray's attorney until Ray's death and then carried on, on behalf of the King family. The King family does not believe Ray had anything to do with the murder of Martin Luther King [2].

To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (312190)	11/24/2006 6:55:34 PM
From: American Spirit	Respond to of 1573092

About Sirhan Sirhan, and why a conspiracy is very possible. On March 3, 1969, in a Los Angeles courtroom, Sirhan confessed that he had killed Kennedy "with 20 years of malice aforethought," although he has maintained since being arrested that he has no memory of the crime - it is so thoroughly blocked out that numerous leading questions asked under hypnosis were unable to produce a cohesive narrative. The judge didn't accept this confession and it was later withdrawn. Sirhan Sirhan's diary Sirhan supposedly believed himself deliberately betrayed by Kennedy's support for Israel in the June 1967 Six-Day War, which had begun exactly one year before the assassination. However the "RFK must die" diary entries started before Kennedy's support of Israel became public knowledge. After his arrest, these journals and diaries were discovered. Most of the entries were incoherent and repetitive, though a single entry obsessed over a desire to kill Kennedy. When confronted with this entry, Sirhan couldn't deny writing them but rather expressed bafflement. In the 1990s, Sirhan proposed the theory that he had been brainwashed. This view has been endorsed by Dr. Herbert Spiegel, a leading expert on hypnosis, although it has been widely denied by others. Those who believe that Sirhan was acting in a hypnotic trance generally believe that CIA's MKULTRA program was responsible for this. Sirhan had once volunteered to be a entranced by a stage hypnotist and had proved to be a remarkably easy person to hypnotise. It has been suggested that it was at this stage show that he was scouted by MKULTRA operatives. [edit] Prosecution The lead prosecutor in the case was "Buck" Lynn Compton WWII veteran of the 101st Airborne Divisions 506th PIR, E Company, of Band of Brothers fame. Attempts by Sirhan's lawyer, Grant Cooper, to remove his case to Fresno where he claimed he could be given a fair trial, failed. During the trial the defense primarily based their case on the expert testimony of Bernard L. Diamond M.D., a well known professor of law and psychiatry at University of California, Berkeley, who testified that Sirhan was suffering from diminished capacity at the time of the murder. Sirhan was convicted and sentenced to death, but the sentence was commuted to life in prison in 1972 after the California Supreme Court in its People v. Anderson decision resulted in the invalidation of all pending death sentences imposed in California prior to 1972. Sirhan's most recent lawyer, Lawrence Teeter, adamantly maintained that Grant Cooper was compromised by a conflict of interest and was, as a consequence, grossly negligent in defense of his client. This, according to Teeter, led to a gross miscarriage of justice.[2] [edit] Conspiracy theory As with his brother John F. Kennedy, there are still a large number of people who doubt the officially accepted story of Bobby Kennedy's assassination that casts Sirhan in the role of "lone gunman". Many of these people suspect that the assassination was carried out by or on behalf of a faction within the U.S. ruling elite. Such views are becoming more widespread after the evidence cited by Sirhan's most recent lawyer Lawrence Teeter, in the June 11th, 2003 interview with Sirhan's attorney Lawrence Teeter on KPFA 94.1's Guns & Butter show.[1] One source of contention is the apparent discrepancies in the forensic evidence. For instance Lawrence Teeter, Sirhan's lawyer until Teeter's death in 2005 stated that Sirhan was out of position to shoot Kennedy. Kennedy was shot from behind, while witnesses stated Sirhan was in front of him. The bullet holes in the senator's body were angled upward as if from below, he said. More bullets were fired than could have come from Sirhan's gun. Unfortunately, because the LAPD chose to destroy the wood panelling it had collected from the hotel pantry as evidence, in spite of widespread scepticism about the official story, it has become much harder to establish which bullets went where.

To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (312190)	11/24/2006 7:03:29 PM
From: American Spirit	Respond to of 1573092

The Zapruder film shows JFK first wincing and grabbing his neck (1st shot), then being slammed back as a second shot rips through his head jetting out brain matter. There were clearly two shots (at least) and they came one after the other. You can plainly see this in a slowed-down version of the Zapruder film as Oliver Stone has in the JFK film. The only way Oswald could have put two shots to the head that quickly would either be with an automatic rifle (which he didn't have) or by reloading and firing like a maniac within two seconds, but then he wouldn't have had time to aim through his scope. Three witnesses state they heard gunshots coming from the Grassy Knoll, and the multiple shots happened almost simutaneously. As for motive, Oswald was a a schitzo nut and a real screw-up. He became not only a communist but an anti-communist and hung out with rightwing anti-communists in New Orleans as well as going to Russia. This makes him a scrambled cipher, someone who's motive or lack thereof would be impossible to explain or deny. In other words, the perfect patsy for the mind control black ops wing of the CIA, or those type of people operating independently. Also, Oswald was stationed in Okinawa at the same time MK ULTRA was conducting mind control drug tests there, and his whole trip to Russia is very mysterious. No one was sure what he was doing there, how he was able to get in and out, or what. Was he a spy for the CIA? A communist nut? What was he? Very contradictory character. The real mystery though lies in what happened after the assassination. The way the murder was immediately peged on Oswald alone without any investigation, then how he and others were silenced before they could talk publicly.

To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (312190)	11/24/2006 7:24:28 PM
From: American Spirit	Respond to of 1573092

More Conspiracy Evidence To Mull Over. Pay attention to the Dallas cop's son's claim that his father was one of the shooters. Also to Hoover's close friendship with LBJ and his hands-off attitude toward the Mob. en.wikipedia.org It is just astounding that there was never a real investigation of all this. But understandable perhaps as any real investigation would have meant looking into the most powerful people in the US government at the time, including some of their connections to the mob.