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Politics : Foreign Policy Discussion Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: RMF who wrote (7624)	11/25/2006 2:09:37 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Respond to of 15987

O.K., Hawk, we've established that you could be provoked to violence by mere words. Used to be that words meant something. If I walk onto your doorstep yelling that I'm going to kill you, and/or your family AND show you reasonable cause to fear for your life, the law used to (and I think still does) justify your taking action to defend yourself. Now, Let's add in that you had been living in poverty for 20 years and seen your friends and neighbors drug out of their homes and humiliated. Hmm.. My father and mother BOTH grew up in stark poverty. I don't recall my Grandparents advocating either of them strapping bombs onto their backs and blowing up innocent people. Hell.. my mother's father used to beat her senseless and made my Grandma plow the fields when she was 9 months pregnant.. He eventually blew his head off over his perceived "tramatic stress syndrome" from WWII (he was a medic on Okinawa). But my parents didn't tell me to go out and blow up innocent people. So cry me a frickin' river.. RMF I don't care if they are fanatic muslims blowing up mosques or subways, or fanatical christians blowing up abortion clinics.. any belief in a supreme being or religious intrepretation of that belief that condones the violence against innocent people is a belief that must be confronted. It's truly a sad statement when people twist their spiritual beliefs in a supernatural creator to justify their mortal fears, and/or desires. The whole idea of believing in a supreme being is to give people a moral standard that lifts them from adhering to primal "jungle law" and creates a basis for civilized tolerance. So do I have a problem killing someone who has justified taking my life, or those of innocent people, because they perceive us as "infidels" in their eyes? Hell no. And you can count in that list of "infidels" many moderate and tolerant Muslims who we are seeing killed every day throughout the Muslim world. I'm willing to fight for their right to peacefully believe as they so desire, just as I'm to fight to defend mine. Hawk