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To: DMaA who wrote (32145)	11/29/2006 4:48:23 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541272

Which Muslims? The extremists do not consider our judgement of Islam and the conduct of Muslims to have any validity. They don't give it a second thought. We constantly inform them about how we think Islam should be reformed. That is our ignorance or carelessness with language. It is like saying we want to reform God. The more appropriate comments would be addressed to societal and cultural reformations and reconstructions, and about our concern for them as brethren on the planet. Even that needs tact which is becoming rare... Check out the comments on the Death Cult thread and even Politics for Pros lately. There is an extremism continuum among this population just like there is in political left/right populations. Those on the extremes are blind to their own faults but see them in the mirror of the other extreme. Extremist Sunnis see the Shi'ites as the worst evil on Earth, because it is the Shi'ites who are responsible, they say, for corrupting the one true religion. They live in isolated culture that allows them to foment every kind of extreme prejudice against outsiders. They have a very uneducated or miseducated view of what outsiders are like. They dismiss us and our view point without consideration. Extremist Shi'ites view Sunnis as misguided terrorists who stand in the way of their path to create a world ordered according to God's will. They see us as living deciples of Satan worshiping the world and its attractions. The Iraqis are being driven into, or behind, extremist forces as they are being told to stand with the Al-Mahdi force or help from Saudi et al. That choice is one of religious prejudice, fear, and a will to survive. Everyone hears and is touched by people mocking the religion as a "so called religion of peace," and as a "Death Cult". Unfortunately the people who are using those phrases are acting like they just came from getting contaminated by a testosterone enrichment plant, and are prone to 'nuke em all' agendas. How can this be considered as cause for self criticism, it further exascerbates the situation. Most Muslims are ill equiped to engage in such discussions. Moderate and reasonable people tend to get smack down treatement and either retreat from the discussion or ar banned from it. Many have stopped listening to the news and just try to go about their daily bread and water business. I certainly want nothing to do with it, when I can discipline myself to stay out of it.

To: DMaA who wrote (32145)	11/29/2006 8:40:25 PM
From: neolib	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541272

Do Muslims comprehend how badly this Sunni/Shiite death struggle reflects on the religion to outsiders? Most likely as well as the Irish do regarding Protestants & Catholics.