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To: eracer who wrote (217996)	11/30/2006 12:52:23 AM
From: Elmer Phud	Respond to of 275872

eracer This version of 4x4 is trash. AMD should be utterly embarrassed to release a high-end desktop system which consumes 400W at idle in this day and age. AMD would have been much better off doing nothing. Why do you think they did this? My theory is that they opened their mouths and announced a response to C2D before they realized how fast Intel could ramp and worse yet, before Intel pulled in QC from '07.

To: eracer who wrote (217996)	11/30/2006 1:03:46 AM
From: JoeyBoston	Respond to of 275872

400W at idle?? LOL. Are u kidding me?? AMD mgt. will come under a lot of heat (pun intended) for this blunder.

To: eracer who wrote (217996)	11/30/2006 9:05:20 AM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

"AMD should be utterly embarrassed to release a high-end desktop system which consumes 400W at idle in this day and age." Think of it as their equivalent of the P4. It is a niche product. More importantly, it is about the only niche where power consumption is a non-issue. 1kw power supplies have been around for ages. If there is any interest at all, then power consumption will be the very first issue addressed.

To: eracer who wrote (217996)	11/30/2006 9:55:43 AM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

eracer, This version of 4x4 is trash. AMD should be utterly embarrassed to release a high-end desktop system which consumes 400W at idle in this day and age. AMD tried a PR stunt, and it blew up in their faces. Oh well... The "new" FX is a meaningless product. One thing that could be moderately attractive - ability to use 8 unbuffered DIMMs - is not supported on the only board that's available (Asus). There is no meaningful upgrade from Athlon 64 buyers because of socket f-ups. High end workstation buyers will most likely continue to prefer Opteron, because of higher memory capacity and product continuity. "Megatasking" for gamers? The current games struggle to give any meaningful work to the 2nd core, leaving it mostly idle. So now, we have 2 nearly idle core, and 2 completely idle cores. One thing to remember is that FX processors had slightly different power states (less aggressive about saving power), which probably accounts for some of the high idle power consumption. Either way, power consumption is just awful. Yep, very bad news if true. It means Kentsfield is only one speed grade away from matching the fastest quad-core K8L (~2.7-2.9GHz) at launch. I think the way to read the comparable IPC is that Conroe with 2 cores will have similar IPC as 2 core K8L. Monolithic quad core will likely have some advantage over MCM. Joe