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To: Keith Feral who wrote (7660)11/30/2006 12:51:11 PM
From: DayTraderKidd  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 15987
 
Thanks for the post, it was well thought out. And I appreciate getting a post from someon where they are not blaming the worlds problems on the dreaded liberals.

I think its a good thing that americans have learned that they can disagree with a foreign policy but if it involes our troops that they should seperate out there issues with thepolicy from there support for the troops. with that said, people in general can be very stubborn. It is amazing how much they are willing to fight when you try and shove a war they don't believe in down there throat or when you try and shove a new way of life down someone elses throat. There are just a lot of people who are not going to let that happen to them.

911 taught us all a lot of things. And Afghanistan was the country that was ripe for the culture change that would have brought them into this century or atleast one close to it <gg>. It was never Iraq. You would need a million man army plus a battle plan customized to urban warfare to have a decent chance at turning Iraq into a democracy of any sort. We have neither of those there now. It's not that they could not turn that around, but I am not sure they have enough time anymore let alone the troops levels needed to carry that out. At this point they should go with the generals advice which is to hold ground and dump a lot more money and brains into the Iraqi security forces.

If we did pull out immediately, the shiite's would probably begin trying to wipe out the sunni population pretty quick. I think that would spill over into saudi arabia, kuwait and several other countries real quick. I think that is why the baker commission is trying to bring those countries into the picture now, before we pull out, in order to avoid that.

But, will see how it plays out. I would expect what ever is going to happen, it wont be very long before it happens.



To: Keith Feral who wrote (7660)12/7/2006 6:08:21 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 15987
 
There is a lot of equality in the ME, but not a lot of freedom.

I agree with the 2nd part but not the first. The ME isn't a place with a lot of equality. It doesn't matter if you are talking about equality of wealth or income or power or social status, or equality between the sexes, or between different religions. By just about any measure the Middle East is not exactly a paragon of equality.