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To: Dan B. who wrote (5279)	12/1/2006 10:35:44 AM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10087

New leader vows to oust U.S. anti-drug squad By Carmen Gentile THE WASHINGTON TIMES November 30, 2006 MIAMI -- Ecuador's outspoken new leader has promised to end the U.S. military's counternarcotics operations in the South American country, saying it targets rebels from neighboring Colombia. Even though his victory will not be official until later this week , Rafael Correa, the leftist economist with a doctorate from the University of Illinois, said shortly after Sunday's election that he would not renew the agreement with the United States. The agreement, which allows the U.S. program to operate out of an airstrip in the port city of Manta, some 140 miles southwest of the capital, Quito, expires in 2009. Leading up to Sunday's election, Mr. Correa said he hoped to have good relations with the United States "within a framework of mutual respect." Ecuador granted the U.S. Air Force permission in 1999 to conduct its counternarcotics flyover operations and drug-seizure missions in the region. The Manta Forward Operating Location houses up to 475 personnel and operates up to eight aircraft. All aircraft are unarmed and support counternarcotics operations only, the U.S. military said. Ecuador is considered one of the world's leading producers of cocaine, after Colombia and Bolivia. Last year, the U.S. operation out of Manta seized some $640 million in illegal drugs and so far this year has confiscated narcotics totaling $2.5 billion in street value. The U.S. forces also have arrested some 260 suspected drug traffickers so far this year, said Capt. Nancy Kuck, a U.S. Air Force public-affairs officer stationed in Quito. Since the program's inception, the United States said it has spent $71 million on construction at the base and contributes more than $6.5 million annually to the local economy. However, Mr. Correa is firm on ending the program, claiming Washington uses the base to carry out attacks on Colombian rebels known to hide along the porous jungle border dividing Ecuador and Colombia. Colombian rebels from the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) have been known to wage attacks on Colombian forces and then flee to relative safety across the border into Ecuador. They also are known to use revenue from the drug trade to fund their decades-long war.

To: Dan B. who wrote (5279)	12/4/2006 1:20:27 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 10087

Re. the clean bill of health thing - it sounded like that to me. Re. whether weed or alcohol is more harmful. That would depend on how they're used. Most alcohol drinkers aren't problem drinkers. Are most marijuana users problem users? I don't know. I do know people who use it 4-5 times a week suffer lower IQ's, memory loss - per studies already posted here. OTOH you could have a beer or two or glass of wine every day and suffer not at all. Re. the freedom argument - freedoms a fine thing but the freedom to get high however one wants just doesn't inspire me.