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To: dougSF30 who wrote (218548)12/1/2006 10:37:10 PM
From: mas_Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
It's not the 'real' reason it's just your madeup imaginary one which is designed purely to bash on baseless speculation as is your want these days. Of course the 8-series is where it should be released first as not only are they the most lucrative priced AMD products but it will allow 16 and 32 K8L core systems which will encroach further on high-end Unix systems and keep the 8 series asp high. The die is ~286 sq mm btw as measured by semico professionals and is not a surprise to anyone least alone AMD. You are just making stuff up about imaginary problems that you have no basis for. AMD did not promise you or anybody any benches or clock numbers so why start spreading crap when they don't deliver what they never promised in the first place ! Calm down and stop looking for reds under the bed which ain't there.



To: dougSF30 who wrote (218548)12/2/2006 4:00:33 PM
From: Joe NYCRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
Doug,

"load of imaginary twaddle" does describe the AMD exec's assertion that they are launching Barcelona for 8000-series only, first, *followed by*, 2000-series, *followed by* 1000 & A64, because "it will benefit 4-socket & above most" (paraphrase)

One thing to keep in mind is that all Opteron launches so far were 8xx and 2xx (8xxx and 2xxx) simultaneously, followed by 1xx (1xxx). I don't see why it should be any different this time. The quote in the article was not a direct quote.

As far as the direct quote of:
"We really think that the sweet spot for Barcelona is four-socket machines, since these boxes have the kinds of workloads that can take the best advantage of threads and cores" says Fruehe.

I agree that it is clearly BS. The one that will benefit by 4 cores are clearly Opteron 1xxx, followed by higher end Opterons. However, AMD benefits most from 8xxx, then 2xxx, then 1xxx, which is what counts.

For example, 1xxx processor based system will likely outperform all pre-Barcelona 2xxx systems, and it is not in any of the suplier's interest for that to be noticed.

Joe