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Politics : WAR on Terror. Will it engulf the Entire Middle East? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (18196)	12/5/2006 7:09:38 AM
From: Chas.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 32591

Fortunately Clowns like you are marginalized by your own hand... You're so "over the top" with your hatred of the Jews and the "West in general" that you are not believable... OTOH you would have been perfect in 1938..... Regards

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (18196)	12/5/2006 9:12:58 AM
From: Scoobah	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 32591

You have to hand it to these Hamas guys, they speak plainly: Hamas Chief Promises War Even if PA State is Established 13:27 Dec 05, '06 / 14 Kislev 5767 by Hillel Fendel Khaled Meshaal, the Damascus-based leader of the Hamas terrorist organization, makes no bones: Either Israel leaves all of Judea, Samaria and Gaza and agrees to the 'right of return' - or war. Meshaal is officially the head of the diplomatic desk of Hamas, but is recognized as the #1 man in the terrorist organization. The target of a failed Israeli assassination attempt a decade ago, Meshaal told a Lebanese newspaper this week that Hamas will not hesitate to resume its armed warfare against Israel. Specifically, he threatened, "If within six months, the international community does not come up with a plan for the establishment of a Palestinian state in the 1967 borders [i.e., on all the land liberated by Israel in the Six Day War - ed.] and for the return of the refugees, the Palestinians will turn to an armed struggle against Israel." "We can have an intifada even when running the Palestinian Authority," Meshaal said, explaining that the ceasefire was not designed to bring peace, but is rather another stage in the war with Israel. "The current calm [cease-fire in Gaza - ed.], just like the escalation [before that], is part of the way we manage the conflict with Israel." Many Israeli military men and analysts have said that Hamas is using the current truce in Gaza to rearm and regroup towards the next round of fighting. Hamas Authority Prime Minister Ismail Haniye, visiting in Syria, echoed Meshaal's position in a speech at a refugee camp. He said the Palestinians will not give up on "even one grain of sand of Palestine," and that Syrian President Assad promised him that all the Palestinian [terrorist] prisoners incarcerated in Israel would be freed. Meshaal admitted that the Hamas-Fatah talks for a unity PA government have "encountered difficulties," but said they have not yet hit a dead end. This clashes with announcements by Hamas leaders Haniye and Mahmoud A-Zahar, who said on Monday that the negotiations had failed and were beyond recovery. Hamas and Fatah elements traded blame and accusations for the failed talks. Fatah leader Abu Mazen (Mahmoud Abbas) is expected to announce - possibly today - whether he plans to dissolve the Parliament, thus leading to a clash with Hamas.

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (18196)	12/5/2006 10:33:32 AM
From: Cage Rattler	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 32591

Thanks for the thought-provoking reply; you make some interesting points. Your comments will take a few minutes to digest. A quick perusal indicates you either failed to identify any positive aspects of islam, or neglected to respond. Distraction and re-direction is usually pretty effective – but not today. Come on answer the question if you can. :^) In the meantime, let me present the following exceptional blog link for your perusal and suggest the rest of the folks check it out as well. http://www.thememriblog.org/ Gus, seriously, where are you coming from? Are you islamic yourself and understandably defend your faith? Or are you motivated to hate Jews from a non-religious foundation?

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (18196)	12/5/2006 5:21:55 PM
From: Cage Rattler	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 32591

First may I address one good and provocative point you made. You bring to the surface interesting information concerning the move towards Algerian independence fifty years ago. I will admit very significant ignorance of the details, but it all rings a bell from world history class – the age of Charles de’Galle, I believe. Nevertheless, whether or not some of that “diehard prophesy” holds true remains to be seen. Particularly if it is contemplated in terms of Northward islamic population migrations into Europe from North African (Algeria) and the Near and Mid-East in general. Islam seems to have purposefully repositioned cohesive population units, that refuse to assimilate into, what appears to be, the more mentally oblivious European populations. Such moves cannot be criticized -- at least not from a long-range, strategic perspective; I believe it was a brilliant move on islams part. Parenthetically, several years ago, I argued the strategic benefit to CPR of implementing a large and purposeful population shift from China into Africa. Presumably you have read Pat Buchannan’s book, The Death of the West. which discusses the European islamic population and predicts a similar Latino populations shift within the US.