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To: KLP who wrote (188648)	12/5/2006 1:46:56 PM
From: miraje	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793974

Would "Missionary" describe what you mean as a "Christianist"? I think it's a silly term. Under Lane's definition of the word, I'd qualify as such, even though I'm completely secular, because I see nothing wrong with Nativity scenes or singing Christmas carols in public schools. When I was in my (public) high school choir, we sang Handel's Messiah and other religious works. I loved the music and didn't fell offended in the slightest because of the religious nature of the works. I would draw the line at praying in public schools, however. T'ain't the time nor place for that, IMO...

To: KLP who wrote (188648)	12/5/2006 3:24:30 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793974

As I recall, you said you are a secularist...and not of any religion.... How can you really capture the flavor, unless you understand the flavor in it's entirety? First of all, I didn't say I was a Secularist but rather that I am secular. I have no itch whatsoever to establish my belief system. I fully respect and support each of us finding his own way and doing his own thing. My libertarian streak is strong and I value pluralism for much the same reasons I value capitalism. Ergo my views and my detachment on religious liberty. As for understanding something in entirety, it seems to me that a collaborative or pluralistic approach aids understanding. You and I see "Christianist" from different angles. You are a Christianist sympathizer at a minimum. I, obviously, am seeing how it comes across to an affected outsider. We each have something to contribute. Your "antidisestablishmentarianism" input was a salient one. I added chauvinism. Those are clearly both factors. If we and others with different angles kept at it, I think we'd get more elements and end up with an excellent understanding. You don't have to be something to have some insight into it. And there's no authority, no revealed truth here, no link to an established definition. And it's unlikely that any of us has perfect understanding. Would "Missionary" describe what you mean as a "Christianist"? I would think that many if not most missionaries would be Christianists. The term seems to loose some of its utility, though, when applied off shore where antidisestablishmentarianism isn't relevant. It's a political construct, after all.