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To: PROLIFE who wrote (15318)	12/6/2006 3:35:16 PM
From: E. T.	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 71588

"nothing would suit you American hating camel jockeys any more than to lose, huh?" Oh please, lot's of people in the military say the situation in Iraq has transformed now into a civil war. You can blame it on Bush and his entourage, former secdef Rumsfeld, Rice and Cheney... As Powell liked to say, those guys have never been in a bar room fight, meaning they had no war fighting experience. So it only makes sense, if you don't know what war is about and refuse to take the advise of your top generals, then losing was in the cards from day one. It's goofs like you that only know how to nod your head and toe the line that have led America in this quagmire. Everyone is a traitor that speaks his mind. But really, you are the one that has done this country a diservice by refusing to think and recognize what was going on in the White House. You, who've have military experience, know civilians at home, no nothing about war. That's Bush, Rumsfeld, Rice and Cheney... Why didn't you ever speak out and say, hey, maybe Powell knows a little something about what he is talking about when he repeatedly warned Bush that to invade the country is to own it... What happens, the White House sees Powell go and Rumsfeld stayed to run the show. ... What a mess...

To: PROLIFE who wrote (15318)	12/10/2006 8:18:29 AM
From: E. T.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71588

Two to three thousand insurgent attacks a month. That sounds like civil war to me.... Oh yes,former Secretary of Defense James Schlessinger says he is "very concerned about Iraq because he sees some very eerie parallels developing with Vietnam."

To: PROLIFE who wrote (15318)	12/10/2006 8:22:38 AM
From: E. T.	Respond to of 71588

John Negroponte said to Wolfowitz, "I'm afraid we may have made the same mistake that we did in Vietnam, where we didn't start Vietnamization until it was too late." Rumsfeld had blocked the efforts to get the training up and running earlier.