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To: Wayners who wrote (83822)	12/7/2006 11:46:21 AM
From: Kevin Rose	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

Nobody is going to convince me of impending doom over such inconsequential fluctuations in temperature So, you're a climatologist? How do you know the signs of impending ecological disaster? Me, I like to rely on the experts, who overwhelmingly believe we could be heading for a disaster: That's why, with glaciers and sea ice melting and rainfall patterns shifting, scientists smell a stacked climate deck. "We have never seen natural variability on a global scale like we've had in the last 100 years," says atmospheric physicist Michael Oppenheimer of Princeton University. A study released last week also found evidence of a stacked deck. Scientists analyzed historical barometric data to infer the strength of winds across the tropical Pacific. This "Walker circulation" consists of high-altitude westerlies and surface easterlies. It has weakened by 3.5% since the mid-1800s, Gabriel Vecchi of the Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory, part of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and colleagues reported in Nature. That has yet-unknown consequences for marine life and regional rainfall. Again, changes in the sun's output since 1861 are too small to have warmed the world enough to weaken the Walker circulation that much, the scientists calculate. Adds Dr. Vecchi, "We looked at 2,000 years of data and asked whether internal variability could produce the weakening. There is less than a 1% chance it did." online.wsj.com

To: Wayners who wrote (83822)	12/7/2006 11:56:19 AM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

Global temperatures are spiking higher and higher and in more extreme ways. Whoever told you temps have been stable or that the global warming is some "cycle" is totally full of it and/or being paid by Exxon to lie. You do know Exxon was allowed to infiltrate Bush's EPA and re-write the scientific study reports to censor all the evidence about the alarming growth of global warming. One of the guys was caught and resigned, immediately going back to work for Exxon. Exxon pays for the scientists who claim there is no made-made global warming. 100% of all peer-reviewed studies around the world agrtee that global warming is real, alarming and man-made. There is not a single credible scientiost on the planet who disagrees with this.

To: Wayners who wrote (83822)	12/7/2006 11:58:53 AM
From: American Spirit	Respond to of 173976

Bush just spoke about how dangerous the Middle East is in Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, Afghanistan and Palestine. What struck me was that every danger he spoke about was created his by own blustering misleadingship and arrogance, starting about the time he let Osama go at Tora Bora and turned his sights to Iraq. Before that after 9-11 we had almost the entire world on our side. What a huge waste that Bush squandered all that goodwill. Bush warned of disasters if we fail in Iraq. He doesn't get it. He's already lost. It already is a disaster. The goose is cooked. And it's his own damn fault. He still doesn't get it. He should step down. He really is a disgrace to our country.