To: miraje who wrote (83915 ) 12/7/2006 5:19:40 PM From: miraje Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 173976 Found this reply on a global warming sob sister site comment section. I couldn't have said it any better...thinkprogress.org # Do you guys believe absolutely everything you hear? You accuse everyone who does not believe in global warming to be ignorant and to have fallen victim to “big oil”, but you have all done the same thing, except you’ve fallen victim to believing something just because you support the political position of the person preaching it (Al Gore). For every one “expert” you site that says global warming is happening, I’ll site two experts that say it is not, some of them even from institutions you profess to be so astute (MIT, Harvard, Stanford, etc.). It’s arrogant and self-apologetic to think that humans are doing as much damage as you claim. How do you justify two ice ages before fossil fuels were even available? How do you justify the alarmist media reports in the 1970’s that the world was freezing? The same media today is freaking out about global warming. You guys will jump on any environmental bandwagon that comes by just because you think you are saving the world. Get over yourselves. And, let me ask you: How did you get to work? Are you using anything in your life made of plastic (derived from oil, just in case you did not know)? What about the carpet (fibers are oil derived), wood floors (urethane coating is oil derived) or tile floor (adhesives to attach the tile are oil derived) you are standing on? How about the plastic on your keyboard, monitor and computer? What about the fabric or the foam on your chair (polyester and polyurethane comes from oil, you know)? How does the water-treatment plant that treats the crap that you flush down the toilet get its power? What about the paper-production plant that makes the toilet paper you use to wipe with – where does it get its power? How do the people that run that plant get to work? You bitch, bitch, bitch, but you don’t do anything to make the problem go away unless it fits conveniently in your elitist lifestyle. Get over yourselves. My message to you: Stop bitching unless you are actually doing something about it. I guarantee that if you had to actually make any major lifestyle changes to reflect your “beliefs”, you’d give up your causes pretty quickly. Convenient Environmentalists (that would be most of you, just to clarify) are even more moronic that the fuel-burning, Hummer driving guy that you seem to hate so much! If you really want to save the world, get off your ass, get out of your Volvo, put down your Starbucks coffee, get rid of the plastic, stop using electricity and actually do something about it. Good God, man, what a bunch of self-centered, trendy hypocrites you are. “Save the Whales”, “Free Tibet”, “No Wal Mart”, “No War for Oil”, “War is not the Answer” — you are bigger suckers than the big-oil, middle-America “rednecks” that you seem to hate so much. I know – how about this: Go out on a limb and protest Target instead of Wal Mart — oh, wait — that is not trendy enough for you, is it? Did you know Target has the same labor practices and product suppliers (”slave labor”, as you call it) that you hate Wal Mart so much for? Free Tibet? I bet most of you don’t even know where Tibet is. In fact, I bet most of you think Tibet is some guy locked up in a jail cell somewhere. Another thing: How can you let a guy like Al Gore tell you what to do? He’s flying all over the country in a private jet with an entourage of cars and SUV’s taking him to his meetings. He burns more fuel in one day than you do in a year. I’m sure he justifies it by telling himself it is necessary for him to deliver his all-important message to all of you brainwashed cool-aid drinkers. Quit whining. Act responsibly, don’t over-consume and spend time enjoying the gifts that the earth has given you. Stop worrying about global warming, because you can’t do anything to make it better — it is not in your control. Grow up. Comment by Knowledge is power — May 25, 2006 @ 3:46 pm