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To: epicure who wrote (210182)	12/11/2006 2:00:32 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I'm sorry but while the game may be over, you are still quite wrong. Your claim all along in this discussion has been that Christian charity shouldn't be considered virtuous since Christians only give to "bribe God" to get into heaven. This claim betrays an ignorance of the basic Christian teaching about salvation. That teaching is explained simplest and best in John 3:16: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." You will note that it doesn't say "whosoever believeth in him and titheth" or "whosoever believeth in him and obeys their church covenant" or anything else. It's "whosoever believeth in him" and that's it. No "work" is required for salvation. It is freely offered. (It would be wrong to say it's free, though. Rather the price has been paid by someone else - "his only begotton Son".) So for Christians, there is no need to "bribe God". There may well be churches which require tithing in their covenants. But you should understand what a church covenant is and isn't. It isn't about salvation but about admission into fellowship or communion. I hope this will be enlightening.