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Politics : GOPwinger Lies/Distortions/Omissions/Perversions of Truth -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kevin Rose who wrote (84384)	12/13/2006 3:45:16 PM
From: jlallen	Respond to of 173976

Have you told your psychiatrist all this?

To: Kevin Rose who wrote (84384)	12/13/2006 3:48:28 PM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 173976

Clinton lied about EVERYTHING

To: Kevin Rose who wrote (84384)	12/13/2006 4:56:06 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 173976

The truth about any issue or circumstance exists someplace, whether it be documented, in the hearts of men, or hanging out in the ether. Attributable deceit is a fairly simple matter. If you have concealed a known truth by actions or utterances, or withheld pertinent information with any intent to deceive others, you have in essence lied. Finding the truth or determining whether or not someone else has lied is much more complicated. As, to do so, you are required to determine what has been concealed and in what matter. Not recommended for lazy folk who just like to name call when things aren’t easy or don’t seem as clear, plain and simple as they would like. Unless you are all knowing, it is often not even possible to determine with absolute assurance who is lying and who is not. To assume that everyone is lying seems like a hopeless default position to me. First off, everyone lies. A recent study shows that people lie, on average, 20 times a day. Most are 'white lies': "Yes, you look fine", "It was delicious", "It's ok with me". The issue is not whether people lie, but what they lie about, and if you can deduce when they are lying. I don’t lie, at least not consciously. I often withhold information as a matter of personal privacy or because I don’t think someone needs to know, but I don’t put that in the same category. I occasionally return home with a sore tongue from all the biting it receives. My public persona is viewed as reserved by some and as a 'quiet type' by others. Everyone sees me as a friendly sort... Except on the tennis court where I'm accused of being a trash talker. ”Whatever the rationalization, it is my opinion that once someone crosses one of those thresholds, it is much harder for them to not cross it again.” I absolutely agree, which is why I think it is incumbent upon each of us to take pains to raise the threshold for our personal conduct, and to harbor expectations of others, especially those who are elected to serve in a position of trust. Your suppositions about Bush may or may not be accurate, I have no way of knowing. But until I am faced with substantial evidence, I maintain a position of being ‘unconvinced.’