To: sandintoes who wrote (9108 ) 12/15/2006 10:47:49 PM From: Ann Corrigan Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 224749 If the NY Times calls for a withdrawal from Iraq, it's a done deal...how could lesser mortals disagree with their pronouncements? Evidently all those liberal minds concentrated in one place has produced experts on military strategy and the war on terror. Americans will just have to ignore their duly elected President and listen to the new NY Times editor. <g> They're such self-important clowns: >>NYT Ed Page Editor Says 'Its Becoming Likely' Paper Will Call for Troop Withdrawal from Iraq Dec 15 2006 Incoming editorial page editor of the NYT says "its becoming more likely" that the paper will call for the U.S. withdrawal from Iraq, in an interview today with C-SPAN's Brian Lamb for "Q & A", airing Sunday at 8/11 p.m. ET. Andrew Rosenthal assumes the post Jan 1. Lamb: Do you think you'll eventually call for us to get out of Iraq? Andrew Rosenthal- Wow, should I answer that question? Lamb - Absolutely. Rosenthal- I think its becoming more likely. I mean I don' t know what George Bush is going to say. We've been going through this very odd spectacle this week of all these meetings and I'm not quite sure what to make of it. We actually wrote about it this week. I mean, are we really supposed to believe he just started thinking about it this week? What are these meetings about? Are we supposed to believe the Army just started thinking about it this week? I mean its crazy. It has to be true that he's just going through this for some crazy public relations stunt. It depends on what he says - if he comes up with a plan that could lead in some reasonable period of time to an orderly withdraw than that's one thing. If he sticks to these fictions about achieving victory and all the other things that he keep talking about then we may have to change. It really does depend, I mean, we're going to withdraw our troops from Iraq and we're going to do that without initiating a fully functioning government that serves as a beacon of hope for the Middle east. I mean its interesting and very instructive to go back and look at last year's strategy for success in Iraq strategy included: defeating terrorists, establishing full democracy in Iraq, an independent army, and an Iraq that is part of the international economic system, I don't know what that means. Are they supposed to join the IMF or the WTO I don' t know what the heck that means. And this kind of burgeoning democracy throughout the Middle East well none of that 's going to happen, I think that's pretty clear - at least not in George Bush's timeframe.<<