To: tyc:> who wrote (7271 ) 12/16/2006 10:19:52 PM From: marcos Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 8273 Wouldn't groups 1-2 or 3-4 be antagonists? ... can't everybody be protagonists in a story, or it gets boring -g- ... and as LC points out there is a fifth group, i see a sixth as well - 5. interested bystanders who will side automatically with groups 1-2, some of these people are highly organised, very well funded, politically effective 6. taxpayers of the realm whose treasury Doublestar plans to drill - LC, ralfph, r-e, and i are all in this category, likely other threaders as well [teevee, Frankly - you pay BC taxes?] ... fine for you people from Backeast to prey on us this way, but we're not gonna like it Did i ever type in my history in re that area? ... can't recall, maybe not ... well, in the original 1985ish Meares Island dispute that started up the whole Clayoquot sound issue, one of the COFI executives doing the negotiations was a long-time personal friend, and another a long time acquaintance ... at the same time, a young lady i was seeing was on the other side, vehemently, spent weeks protesting out there and in Victoria, though i note that she did miss getting herself arrested ... anyway, i heard it from all sides, and yup, as a taxpayer had to spring for the bills of it all Before that, in the early seventies, i fell timber in TFL 44 for a few weeks, that's the TFL that took in most all of Clayoquot sound ... it was a bloody mess we left behind in those days, not much of that decadent wood was merch [merch = 'wood you can sell'] ... big dirty candelabra cedars with thirty-five spikey dead tops on them, you drop the thing and it busts into a million pieces, maybe not even any merch in the short fat distorted trunk ... crappy hemlock and balsam in between, neither worth much, it was a hard dangerous place to work, and once logged it looked like a war zone for ten or fifteen years till the second-growth greened up ... ugly, really really ugly - while i understand the economics involved, it's also easy to see why outsiders find the look a bit gross Before that, one Easter ['65?] when the road from Alberni had been joined up, a bunch of us went out there, played hippy before the term was even invented, built driftwood shacks on the beach and ate clams all day, stuff like that, only bad thing was this horrible plonk called Logana ... it was clear that this was a Very Special Place, had we foreseen the phenomenon of yuppification we would have had premonitions of its demise right then and there, as it was we watched it slowly die over the years, all gone now, no more edge-of-the-world, quite sad