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Politics : Foreign Policy Discussion Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Sam who wrote (7780)	12/18/2006 7:29:59 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Respond to of 15987

Sam, Thanks for posting that. It certainly sounds as if unreasonable measures were used on Mr. Vance, primarily the shackles. As for keeping the lights on, I'd wager that this was the case for the entire cell block, since they just don't have the sophisticated circuitry for individual lights in each cell. I'm didn't have that much personal experience with TF 134, the task force primarily responsible for detainee operations, although I knew quite a few people who worked there. Had I been treated in such a manner, were I to come under similar suspicion, I would have been seeking legal counsel for a lawsuit. Mr. Vance should have been immediately evacuated to the US, and placed in a US facility, pending results of any investigation. He also should have been provided his constitutional rights to reasonable bail. The only basis that should have permitted Mr. Vance and his colleague to be detained in such a manner were if their had been some official finding that that they were enemy combatants. Only then could I understand such treatment. Normally, when contractors were involved in illegal acts (drunk driving, assault.. etc), they were immediately fired and then evacuated from the country. Further charges could then be levied against them stateside. I will provide you one example of a guy who really needs to be apprehended (I only found out today that he had actually been incarcerated in the period since my departure): news.yahoo.com This SOB had hired terrorists to be part of his protective detail (which then permitted them to enter the Green Zone and surveil potential kidnapping and bombing targets). We were trying to obtain sufficient evidence to link him as a knowing participant with this terrorist cell posing as a security detail. Presumably, hiring such people to be your personal bodyguards would entail knowing exactly the backgrounds of every one of them, so it was just unbelievable that he didn't know. However, since he was a US citizen, we had to tread carefully and at the time I had left, he was still on the loose. And apparently this seems to be the case once again. Btw, this guy is a nuclear scientist. Hawk