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To: CalculatedRisk who wrote (76159)12/20/2006 1:49:07 AM
From: pogohere  Respond to of 110194
 
Thanks.

I am persuaded by John Williams at shadowstats.com that we are already past the unemployment rates of the early 80s.

Given the credit explosion that has already occurred, I think things get far worse before there is even a prayer that they stabilize or get better.



To: CalculatedRisk who wrote (76159)12/20/2006 3:07:00 AM
From: John Vosilla  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 110194
 
So much now depends on the direction of long term interest rates. Take them up 300 basis points within a 12-18 month period and it could be real bad with plunging asset values of 30-50% across the board. Keep them low for 5-10 years and the excesses get easily absorbed IMHO with 2 minor recessions at most..



To: CalculatedRisk who wrote (76159)12/20/2006 5:32:09 AM
From: re3  Respond to of 110194
 
<<<I don't see the current situation as anything compared to '29

i keep wondering, have we reached a permanent level of prosperity where everyone can always afford a cell phone for themselves, for their kids, all the cable tv they want, internet, ipods for the kids, not to mention to be able to afford the "needs" as well as the "wants" ?

what is this prosperity really based on ?