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Politics : Foreign Policy Discussion Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Maurice Winn who wrote (7887)12/22/2006 4:47:17 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 15987
 
Tim, anything that people achieve, starts with the idea, usually quite a small idea. Which is then built on when it proves successful and popular.

I'm not disputing that, I just don't think its a very relevant point. The vast majority of the difficulty in instituting a NUN is getting wide spread international agreement. However you start it you don't remove that difficulty.

With the right constitution, it's hard to see why anyone would NOT sign up.

Whatever constitution you have many people will object to it. If you meet those objections you'll cause a different group to object. Also many object for reasons that have nothing to do with the constitution. "The right constitution" is not just a small step in terms of how much effort need to be put in to it (actually it might not be all that small in those terms) its a small step in terms of how far getting it moves the effort forward.

It's like CDMA.

CDMA might be a more complex technical achievement but its much less complex as a political achievement. CDMA isn't a rule for the world. People don't have to use CDMA to have cell phones, and they don't even have to have cell phones. But even if you wanted to and did implement and enforce a rule that everyone in the world had to use CDMA that would still be smaller and simpler as a political action then instituting a "NUN".

Political change is fundamentally different then technical improvements in electronics. Analogies between the two are usually week and unconvincing.

All the benefits of membership start flowing to those signatories.

Lets say Croatia, and Paraguay sign up (and only those two, at least at first) What "benefits of membership" do they get?