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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (12853)12/22/2006 10:38:45 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 218131
 
It seems to me that both Israelis and Palestinians are each to blame for part of the horrible conflict they are locked into, but neither appears to be capable of seeing their own misdeeds, only that of the other.

I've tried very hard to comprehend why, and come up with many different hypotheses over the years, and the working hypothesis I lately have been entertaining is that tribalism are so different from individualism that individualists can't comprehend tribalism, at all.

There is wanton slaughter on both sides.

One side puts on vests of hand-made bombs and blows up children and teenagers and wedding parties.

The other side uses weapons from afar with collateral damage carefully calculated so that as few innocent people are killed as is strategically expedient. If the person they are trying to kill is very very bad, then it's ok to blow up an apartment complex full of sleeping men, women and children, or a marketplace full of shopping families.

Both attitudes obscene, of course, but when it comes to tit-for-tat, we think tit is worse than tat.

Killing innocent Jews simply because they are Jews is morally worse than killing innocent Palestinians because they are physically adjacent to Palestinians who killed Jews, is the way I look at it, and I assume you do, too. But both are difficult to defend.



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (12853)12/23/2006 12:48:47 AM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 218131
 
was dalian visa free also? or were the jews welcomed by the natives to land and make temporary home in time of dire need?

No, and Yes. What a surprise.

Give it up maurice, especially about the'dogs and chinese not allowed' british and cities made open by force of arms and closed to the natives.

The fact that rich jews lived within the concessions, and the poor ones lived amongst the native should not surprise you.

Now, back to the palestinians who are in enlarged concentration camps, being sprayed with cluster bombs, and generations know nothing except concentration camps, i do not have the heart to blame the 'stone throwing thugs' facing the latest free world tanks, because under the circumstance, i trust all facing same would be throwing stones. No?

... you do no think so, apparently

<<the Jews are not lobbing cluster bombs into mobs of civilians in genocidal horror>>

... no, i suppose the cluster bombs were manufactured by the americans, exported to balance out trade under soft loan programs, and installed by Israel in Palestinian camps as decorations in the camps

collateral damage is such a quaint word, do you not think so?

<<Sometimes collective punishment is right because there's no better way>>

... yeah, some may say that. others hold to a higher standard. can count you out.

you are of course in favor of nuking innocents, and that is precisely why we will have massive nuclear proliferation, as all innocents prepare for The Day.

you have no clue about cause and consequence. but then, you are a greensputin admirer and burnandkaput faithful.

what the nazis did to the jews have naught to do with what israel is doing to palestinian children born and raised in camps, that are sprinkled with cluster bombs, does it? if so, how?