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Politics : Foreign Policy Discussion Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (7899)	12/24/2006 3:01:51 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 15987

<On timing, it has been over 15 years since April Glaspie and the White House arranged for Kuwait to be invaded to open the way to sanctions and a higher oil price. If the police tell a criminal that they aren't going to patrol my neighborhood anymore, does that give the criminal the right to break into my house, steal everything I own and kill and terrorize my family?> Hawk, Merry Christmas and Happy holy days. [it's Xmas morning here, no children in the house, and the adults are subdued from last night]. It's summer. It's daylight from early to late. The longest day has passed and we are heading for winter, but winter is still upon us so where's the greenhouse effect when you need it? Of course not [to answer your question]. But the USA isn't the police and Kuwait is the property of Iraq and so is the oil, if one believes that Taiwan is the property of China and they should be considered one country. And so too if Israel can be considered the property of Jews to dispose of as they like. So your analogy isn't robust, apart from the fact that the relationships between countries which are sovereign decide for themselves what to do, just as does the USA. Where does a 400lb gorilla sit? Anywhere he likes. I'm keen on developing civil society at a supranational level. As you know, it's great to live in one, with laws and political processes which avoid the need for shooting people and having trials of strength [other than in unusual criminal situations]. So, here we are on Christmas Day, celebrating the individual versus the global [for the time] state. Celebrating not the territorial conquering confiscatory alpha male violent tribal dominance hierarchy, with the chief and mystics at the top and the pecking order to the bottom, but the universality of being human, the teleological nature of nature and our DNA and cyberspace and the mind, the peer to peer power of mutuality. Remembering what the state does to people who disagree with the olde style rule of power and the state, with effigies of Jesus nailed up and tortured until death. Somewhat worse than water-boarding, stress positions and having the lights left on. But that's for Easter. For now, we celebrate the birth of the individual and the ideology of individual freedom and self-determination within a vast humanity working in mutuality and love with each other and nature to create Shangri-la of the mind, not to build a materialistic totalitarian state of totems and imposing state buildings and process, in which we are nothing but state serfs, which is the current trend around the world. Jesus was a Libertarian. Probably gay too I reckon [those apostles were all blokes and it wasn't a rugby team]. Peace on Earth and goodwill to all men. And women too - especially women I reckon. And the children. Not for those Al Qaeda people though. I'm not sure about Hu Jintao either. And I'm sick of having Maori tribalism shoved down my throat and my property confiscated to pay for it. But that's not as bad as Helen Clark's self-dealing payments to her and her mates. Come to think of it, how come I'm not even allowed fireworks any more? I even dreamed about it last night - some bloke had a lot of double happies but they turned out to be fizzers. He put one just by a baby's head to show how safe they were. I think I know why we aren't allowed guns for self-defence. The power mongers are worried about their self-defence from a resentful population who might finally get sick of ever-increasing state dominance and confiscation for the glory of Helengrad and the subjugation of the individual. They nail to the cross anyone who gets too uppity. Mqurice