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To: Ilaine who wrote (12974)	12/25/2006 8:34:03 PM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 219928

<<So you do believe in collective guilt>> I do not believe in collective guilt in one sense, that I do not support collective punishment. Heck, the debacle of Iraq is clearly a collective guilt by all involved, on all sides, from the scoundrels that ruled the place, to the rot that replaced the scoundrels, as well as the Congress people who abdicated their collective wisdom and allowed the debacle to incubate, festers, and infect the world system. So, back to the 'church' in question, as in the leadership/institution since the beginning, the institution seems prone to guilty blood letting and guilty child molesting, in one sense, and the collection of guilt has accumulated to quite a pile, in another measure. To try to separate the church from its institutional guilt should only be tried by a lawyer practiced in the art of defining 'is'. <<I believe that individuals are responsible for their own actions>> So do I, and I believe I am more of the true faith than most who attend organized religion. <<Nevertheless, the alleged "Catholic" priests that are toadies for the Chicom government are not, in fact, in the Roman Catholic heirarchy>> ... so what? should they be gotten rid of, or should they change their title, or are their followers worshipping the wrong god written up in doctered text? No, perhaps, no and no are the reasonable anwsers? <<They may be good Protestants, but they are not Catholics.>> ... ah ... to this observers, sounds like N.Ireland in the making in China. <<But individualism isn't an abtract concept, nor is protecting the rights of all individuals>> I do not see a lot of individualism in organized religion of any kind, and cannot recommend any to my erita. <<It's the sine qua non for a civilized nation>> ... that counts USA out, then clearly. <<Not that any country has ever gotten it all right, all the time, but at least in real civilized countries there is legal redress for the weak and the few and the minorities. Justice may come slow, but it will come.>> Justice has many faces. Chinese Revolution, once won, is just. Indian court case, lasting 75 years, is not. American court case, fought with money, cannot be. Don't you just love the many ways to look at the same situation? Chugs, J