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To: Ilaine who wrote (13001)	12/25/2006 9:00:15 PM
From: TobagoJack	Respond to of 218147

<<The UN really did partition Israel/Palestine in 1947>> ... and the residents of the region, in the majority, agreed, presumably? by referendum of some sort? No? hmmmnnn ... sets a bad precedent. At some future date, the then UN may do same with Siberia, Canada, Mexico, etc. <<The state of Israel really did declare independence in 1948>> ... OK. And China declared Tibet and Taiwan to be its sovereign territory, while the US of A did same with 50 states. Is that the rule will go by? <<The Arab nations of Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Jordan really did attack Israel immediately after the partition>> ... and so the palestinian children, along with their parents, and future offspring must be punished in a biblical forever way, and should they struggle with any hope of success, turning them to glass will be fully justified by declaration of church goers in n.america? Ok, I can debate the rights and wrongs within the confines of these rules. <<Hundreds of thousands of the Palestinian civilian population really did leave their homes in Israeli territory for their own reasons>> ... yeup, happens all the time, without thugs and terrorist agitating. I can see how it could have happened ;0/ especially ifwhat was their home was suddenly made into not their territory by a building of folks in NYC. <<The other Arab nations have never allowed the Palestinian refugees to assimilate into their countries>> ... and they are wrong to not wishing to take in new folks? Is that the rules we go by? Guess the Tibatans never allowed Han cousins to migrate either. Very bad of them. <<The way you tell the story, the Jews threw all the Arabs out summarily and forced them into concentration camps>> ... not quite. Read back to note that I observed a current state of is, put a stake n the sand, and then asked the thread how far back we go in time to determine the right and wrongs. The date of demarcation is germain to eventual outcome in all those who believe in the inherent right and biblical wrong. Right now we have the matter range-bound between a few thousand years and your 1947 magic date, and so are still forced to address the question, 'is it biblically right to cluster bomb children born and confined in camps?'

To: Ilaine who wrote (13001)	12/26/2006 9:25:06 AM
From: carranza2	Respond to of 218147

The other Arab nations have never allowed the Palestinian refugees to assimilate into their countries. Assimilate? Wherever the Pals go, they make a thorough nuisance of themselves, try to take over, e.g., Jordan in 1969-1970 which culminated in an operation by King Hussein the Pals recall now as Black September. Interesting to read up on Black September for cause and effect. The Pals were inflated by the fact that although they had lost some post-1967 skirmishes to the Israelis, they had been comparatively more successful than the Arabs which had attacked en masse. Thinking themselves invincible, and lead by a hallucinating Arafat, they tried to make an independent Palestinian zone out of a chunk of Jordan. Big mistake but typical bad thinking. King Hussein unleashed hell on them, sending Arafat to Tunisia. I wonder how good the arguments against Israel's sovereignty would be if Arafat had succeeded in creating a Palestinian state out of Jordanian territory.