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To: Elroy who wrote (317344)	12/26/2006 12:28:59 AM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571636

"Do you think the NKs have "modern technology"?" No. Does it matter? They can still send God's own number of shells on Seoul. If anything is maintained in that country, it will be those pieces along with the needed shells. Without them, they are nothing. Scuds are unguided missiles. The same ones who were running in circles in fear of them were the same ones who were pushing to invade because the Scuds were such a problem. You need to factor this in. "As for "facts" like these, any idea how reliable they are?" Pretty reliable. We watched them being built. "I mean, I would imagine we know even less about NK's artillery than we did about Saddam's WMDs. Right?" You mean the WMD that many doubted even existed? Except for the ones pushing for the war, I mean. Nothing happens, or for that matter has happened, in the DMZ or the areas around it that we don't know about for a very long time. We watched the positions being improved and the pieces put in place. The distances aren't large and the technology required has been in our possession since WWII. So you imagine wrong.

To: Elroy who wrote (317344)	12/26/2006 9:57:18 AM
From: bentway	Respond to of 1571636

"Its artillery forces possessed over 8,300 of the 76.2 mm, 100 mm, 122 mm, 130 mm, 152 mm, and 170 mm howitzers and guns, over 2,700 of the 107 mm, 122 mm, 132 mm, 240 mm multiple rocket launchers, and more than 12,500 anti-aircraft guns. Probably because of its initial Soviet tutelage and the limited ground attack capability of the air force, great emphasis is placed on using massive artillery firepower. North Korean ordnance factories produce a variety of self-propelled guns, howitzers, and gun-howitzers. In the 1980s, North Korea produced a significant amount of self-propelled artillery, mating towed artillery tubes with chassis already in the inventory. North Korean strategic thought also seems to be based on the primacy of developing an offensive capability, reflecting an appreciation for firepower probably dating to the Korean War. Further, P'yongyang is willing to invest the time and effort necessary for effective defense of its ground forces from air attack and artillery fire. With the exception of the 170mm M-1978 Koksan gun first noted in a parade in 1985, a new turreted self-propelled gun observed in a 1992 parade, and perhaps a few other systems, most artillery was developed from older Soviet and Chinese designs. All incorporate proven technologies or components. " globalsecurity.org

To: Elroy who wrote (317344)	12/31/2006 4:19:30 AM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1571636

Do you think the NKs have "modern technology"? I thought they could barely feed their own people and had little access to the outside world. Do you think their arms are well maintained, or 30 year old clunkers. I really have no idea. I just don't recall Saddam doing that much damage to Israel in Gulf War 1 with his Scuds, and wondered if perhaps the NK artillery might be in a similar state. They have been getting modern equipment from Iran and Pakistan. NK is not a rich nation but if you're spending all the nation's money on presents for its emperor and on armaments........that's quite an allocation of funds. God knows they are not spending on food.