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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Solon who wrote (25133)	12/30/2006 9:03:19 AM
From: Giordano Bruno	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 28931

Twelve priests were about to be ordained. The final test was for them to line up in a straight row, totally naked, in a garden while a sexy, beautiful, big breasted, nude model danced before them. Each priest had a small bell attached to his weenie and they were told that anyone whose bell rang when she danced in front of them would not be ordained because he had not reached a state of spiritual purity. The beautiful model danced before the first candidate, with no reaction. She proceeded down the line with the same response from all the priests until she got to the final priest, Carlos. Poor Carlos; as she danced, his bell began to ring so loudly that it flew off, clattering across the ground and laid to rest in nearby foliage. Embarrassed, Carlos quickly scrambled to where the bell came to rest and bent over to pick it up. Then all the other bells started to ring.... -Borrowed from the laughter thread.

To: Solon who wrote (25133)	12/30/2006 12:13:01 PM
From: average joe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

I wonder if greg or e and Moses approve.

To: Solon who wrote (25133)	12/30/2006 7:22:42 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

Why the clergy has made our heroes our heretics? metransparent.com Iqbal Latif Our modern day laureates depict equally a sense of great connectivity to the rich past and that has to become a standard. Most likely the Islamic Renaissance that was about to be born 1000 years ago did not. We shall never know the extent of the harm that some celebrated religious zealots caused to mankind and civilization. We are once again at the crossroads; the only ways forward is to connect with the world and help make ours a true charitable society, the only way prosperity of mind can be ensured is through pluralism of ideas.

To: Solon who wrote (25133)	12/30/2006 7:33:24 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

The simple joys between a man & woman is still a risky business , a recent scandal in Iran Zahra Amir Ebrahimi- Humans are humans, a gorgeous combination of beauty and beast! iranian.ws Nov 25, 2006 Iqbal Latif, Paris - Persian Journal In the Islamic world legislation of public morals seems to be the best past time for clergy. The most evil way to curb individual freedom is to subject an individual to scrutiny of his/her private life. If a woman accuses someone of rape she needs four witnesses, if man accuses a woman of lewdness one is enough, if a woman is caught on videos four witnesses criterion is compromised. Humans are humans, a gorgeous combination of beauty and beast, no amount of theological harassment; ideological bullying and absolutism can change them into angels. The numbers of thesis by the senior clergy of Qom and Al-Azhar on issues relating to below the navel of a human being are mind-boggling. This fixation of curbing 'sex freedom' has one purpose only to deny pleasure and create a society driven by the fears of hell. Woman is a tool of easiest exploitation. Sexual humiliation and shame annihilate self-worth, for clergy to dominate masses this is the easiest tool. Killing and legislating for crimes below naval cavity for this reason is the best past time, it is carte blanche of control of masses. As if Iran doesn't have enough political problems. The sex scandal on a Richter scale of 10 has hit Tehran. The internet is abuzz with the exploits of Zahra Amir Ebrahami enjoying consensual sex with her boyfriend. The video clearly indicates that both are very much part of this extremely sensuous and vulgar drama. Nothing has been left to the imagination. Although this is something very private to an ordinary woman, but for a woman who is a public figure, it poses a problem. Her face is very well recognized in Iran. She stars in a major soap opera that is very puritanical playing the role of a moral upstanding woman. Her picture in the Iranian-legislated scarf is quite simple and she looks like any beautiful Tehrani girl. The problem is that the puritans cannot reconcile the images of her private life with those in a scarf. What shocks them is how a girl so nice can be so lowly. But I see nothing lowly or base about what she does in her very personal and private life. The very reason I am taken aback by such kind of open intrusion is because of the fact that decadent and closed societies take it upon themselves to legislate the lives of individuals. Zahra Abrahami is no longer a lady, but a person who has challenged the foolishness of a system that encourages in public a behaviour which is very pious, and demonizes a human being who indulges in carnal pleasures, or rather, in a state equating to animals. Food and libidos are two desires which are very much a part of integral human behaviour. The issue is not about Zahra indulging in consensual sex, it is about questioning ourselves as to what right we have to object and legislate her performance. In privacy of oneself, only God knows the real truth, and no mortal has any divine authority to play judge, jury and executioner. If someone's privacy is violated we should condemn the people who shamefully invade those private moments, but not those who indulge in such private moments of very normal human behaviour. Let's be honest. Had it not been for carnal pleasure, it would defy the very fundamental reason of our existence, that of procreation. cont'd The mullahs pounce on every opportunity to promote goodness and public morality over vulgarity and tend to take the case into their own safe hands, ready to conduct deep microscopic examination of ethics and morals of the society. It upsets them why Zahra and her partner have been so creative in the 26-minute video. They thought they had effectively sentenced Iran to the Cave Age since the last 38 years, and fooled themselves into believing Iranians had lost the definition or understanding of carnal pleasures and natural human libidos. This underestimation of Iranian libido is the worst offence against a nation. They thought by putting the whole nation into a straitjacket of scarf and medievalism, they?ve managed to arrest Iranians? natural progression. con'td