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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: miraje who wrote (9486)	12/30/2006 11:48:45 AM
From: American Spirit	Respond to of 224729

Oil costs what OPEC, Exxon and a few others decide to charge. OPEC is a virtual monopoly. Bill O'Reilly, in a rare show of honesty, has stated so many times. When 95% of big opil powers collude and work together it is price-fixing, a monopoly and that's illegal and corrupt. Nowadays there is practically no competition in the oil market except for Hugo Chavez and a few other "enemies" who sell to friends cheaply. Which is a big reason Bushies declare them "enemies". Nobody screws with big oil's windfall profits under Bush. Chavez became our "enemy" the day he said no to big Texas oil firms. Otherwise, Bush coddles plenty of unsavory leaders, so long as they ball with Exxon. You are totally dishonest if you say that some "fair market" decides things. Supply and demand, fine, but they control the supply and the delivery from ground to pump. And they control the trading along with certain pals in the futures pits. Just watch the movie "Enron" and listen to the Enron traders creating the artificial shortages and bottlenecks so as to drive up the prices, then read Bob Woodward's report of Prince Bandar ofering Bush lower oil prices going into the 2004 election. Also, I spoke to an oil exec in Texas last year. He was drunk and (not knowing I was with Kerry) boasted that the industry had been "charging anything we want" since Bush-Cheney came into power with Delay's protection. He then stopped nervously and asked me if I'm a democrat. I said yes and he clammed up and made himself scarce. A rare admission of the truth from the source. Also, if anyone tells you oil wasn't the #1 reason Bush invaded Iraq they're dishonest too. 3000 US soldiers dead and a trillion dollars down the drain for a few Texas oil giants windfall profits. Though bthat didn't work out so well for any of them.

To: miraje who wrote (9486)	12/30/2006 12:03:21 PM
From: tonto	Respond to of 224729

AS does not know anything about the oil sector nor about econ. He just spouts conspiracy points that he reads off of extreme websites. I challenged him on the supply and demand issue last year and he ran from it. rude oil costs what it costs, all over the world, you insufferable nitwit. The amount that American based majors control is a tiny percentage of that. Do you know what a world market is? Do you know what supply and demand mean, pee wee? Either get a book and educate yourself or go play on the freeway. And have a nice day...

To: miraje who wrote (9486)	12/30/2006 12:06:39 PM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224729

US Active Military Poll Bad News For Bush and GOP * We can see in this Military Times poll that volunteer military personnel are generally from conservative GOP backgrounds, 60% of them saying they are Republicans, almost double the national average. Several years ago, 82% of soldiers supported Bush. Now it is about half that. So fully one third of Republican active military no longer support Bush's policies. Only 22% approve of the Delay-Hastert congress. In other words, we need a new commander in chief and a new military policy, especially in Iraq. This is very bad for morale. rawstory.com

To: miraje who wrote (9486)	12/30/2006 4:29:25 PM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224729

Bush Official Oil Corruption Charges Investigated nytimes.com You see pal, the whole scheme of the Bushie energy thieves (and other sectors) has been to wipe out competition, deregulate to eliminate rules and enforcement, game the system, collude, then gouge us all to their heart's content. It was all set up by their deregulation schemes (which may have soudned god at the time) but the gouging itse;f only began the day after Bush-cheney were first nominated. And since then, a trillion dollars ripped off. The Saudis are in on it too, of course. I was just down in Houston and quizzed the former Bush-supporting conservatives in the room as to how their energy bills had been since Bush and Enron deregulated in the 90's. WAY UP! was the universal answer, WAY-WAY up and no competition. So they even rip off their own in Texas. Don't you see? We are talking about the biggest ripoff in US history and you Bush supporters have been letting it happen.