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To: Metacomet who wrote (28627)	12/30/2006 5:00:14 PM
From: koan	Respond to of 78410

Thanks metacomet and I think tester is actually from Montana.

To: Metacomet who wrote (28627)	12/30/2006 5:45:02 PM
From: Herb Duncan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 78410

Koan, (see cut and pasted notes below) while you are on the subject of Bush it violates my sensibilities to imagine that Presidents could be impeached for wire tapping and sexual indiscretions and yet a President who used lies and half truths to lead the American people into a war that has cost tens if not hundreds of thousands of lives, one trillion dollars and seriously destabilized the region middle remains in office. Has America lost its moral reference point? Impeachment of a President is a rare event. Only two Presidents, Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton, have been impeached and none have been removed from office as a result. Articles of Impeachment for Richard Nixon were drawn up but Nixon resigned before he could be impeached. Congress started to impeach John Tyler over State's Rights issues but the measure failed. Andrew Johnson After the Civil War, Johnson and Congress repeatedly butted heads over the rights of freed slaves. Johnson vetoed several bills intended to expand the rights of the former slaves. Johnson then dismissed Secretary of War Edwin M. Stanton. Congress claimed this violated the Tenure of Office Act, which forbade the president from removing certain officeholders without the approval of the Senate. Johnson was impeached for this but found not guilty because Stanton had been appointed by Lincoln and the Tenure Act did not protect officeholders held over from a previous term. Articles of Impeachment for Andrew Johnson William Clinton When Clinton was testifying in a sexual harassment lawsuit by Paula Jones he stated that did not have "sex" with Monica Lewinsky. When he later revealed that he had oral sex with her, the Republicans impeached him for perjury. Clinton was eventually acquitted when it was found that his crimes did not rise to the level of "high Crimes and Misdemeanors" and that the term "sexual relations" as used by Clinton only referred to intercourse and did not include oral sex. Articles of Impeachment for William Clinton So we have two Presidents impeached: one for firing someone and another for lying about sex. Now we have President Bush who lied to Congress about the justification for war and invaded a sovereign country causing the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians and many more troops, tortured prisoners and illegally wiretapped American citizens in direct defiance of the mandated legal process. I think the crimes of Bush are far more heinous than the crimes of Johnson and Clinton. If Johnson and Clinton can be impeached for what they did, then surely Bush can be impeached for the horrible crimes he has committed.<i/>