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To: KLP who wrote (191201)	12/31/2006 9:04:31 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 794411

Well Karen, I guess the truth is disgusting. Lt Calley pardoned and good to go. Saddam hung. No wonder Americans get so much bad press around the world. If they do it, they were just gook children and women. If Saddam does it, to some people who actually tried to kill him and their fairly proximate male associates, dad gum we'd better string him up. Hypocrisy never sells well. Especially when there are slaves and masters and the masters can do pretty well what they like. The numbers of victims were even similar. Saddam was not hung for war in Iran and everything else. He was only found guilty, in a Mickey Mouse trial, of being in favour of the execution of some males from a town which tried to kill him. King George II started a whole war because his father and wife had an assassination attempt against them which Saddam was supposed to have supported. We know that WMDs was a load of rot and that was obvious at the time. Yes, it is discouraging that the USA whitewashes their own crimes but foams at the mouth about those by others. Torture is bad, unless we do it!! Yes, if Saddam and Calley were in NZ, they'd both be still alive. Calley would have been released long ago as such crimes at the time had quite limited sentences. There is actually substantial support in NZ for capital consequences, but it doesn't get through the political dilution process. Personally, I object to paying taxes to keep suitable criminals alive. Mqurice PS: I am not saying Saddam didn't do a lot more besides. But in a legal sense, he didn't do it until convicted. I guess you know that.

To: KLP who wrote (191201)	12/31/2006 9:24:22 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 794411

K, I've had a look at your links now. They are not very convincing and just the old stuff. One is quite laughable img.timeinc.net A Time magazine cover? You have to be kidding. My all-time favourite journalistic absurdity was the Time expose of male child prostitution in Moscow. When the magazine came out, I laughed at the article as being an obvious con. And all I had to go by was the stupid cover and other photos and stupidity in the article. But Time was not doing a 1 April expose. They were really fooled. They admitted so some months later. As for the mass Kurdish graves, bear in mind that Kurds were to Saddam and Japanese were to Americans. They were total war opponents. By killing a village full of them, Saddam had a good chance of subduing them. It was obviously not genocide as he didn't go on to eliminate the whole Kurdish population. I went to Hiroshima and visited the memorial museum there. I can assure you that the USA is quite capable of similar "make them give up" mass killing. The photos were as horrific as you can imagine. Anyway, they are all irrelevant because the trial in which Saddam was convicted was the parking ticket trial - payback on the local males for an assassination attempt, and I suspect he succeeded in his objective of getting the perpetrators and their associates and supporters. Lt Calley's victims were not trying to assassinate him. He didn't bother doing the decent thing like Saddam and separating the women, children, old people from the "suspects" of which there were none anyway, as they hadn't come under attack. Saddam hung, Calley having fun. Mqurice