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To: Elroy who wrote (211522)	1/2/2007 9:51:10 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

If you infer a right to privacy in the constitution, as the court has done, than our ability to choose our reproductive destiny is the ultimate, or one of the ultimate, areas of such privacy. The abortion cases grew from the lineage of forced sterilization cases. The US supreme court found that the forced sterilization of those incarcerated was an intrusion in to their right of privacy concerning their own bodies. If you are not allowed to govern your own body, what, exactly, does freedom really mean? And how can women be free if they are forced, simply by geographic destiny, to carry a child to term which they do not want? Seems pretty draconian to me. I understand not "liking" abortion, but the alternative is to force women, who you do not know, and who's circumstances you do not comprehend, to be breeders for children they do not want. I'm not sure you would want to be forced in to that, would you? If you accept such duty fine, but it's not "freedom" to be forced in to 9 months of incubatorship.

To: Elroy who wrote (211522)	1/2/2007 12:16:41 PM
From: Noel de Leon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I see from the dialogue you had with Iktomi that you choose to interpret "figure it out" to mean something else than I do. Figure it out just means that, figure out what is right and get it corrected. Brown v. Board of Education is a classic case of figuring out that it was wrong to use a separate but equal rule to keep Blacks out of non-Black schools. The state of Arkansas couldn't figure that one out. As to the right to bear arms argument, you might want to ask why gun laws in New York have not been overturned by the Supreme Court. The right to free speech has its limits as well.