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To: longnshort who wrote (3779)	1/4/2007 1:29:04 PM
From: Oral Roberts	Respond to of 20106

No they aren't violent. It's just that the ROP would force them to try and covert the Christians and when they failed they would have to kill them. It's not that their violent, it's out of their hands. Allah said so therefore it shall be done Allah be praised.

To: longnshort who wrote (3779)	1/4/2007 1:29:06 PM
From: Oral Roberts	Respond to of 20106

Stuttered and posted twice and it wasn't that profound as to be repeated:)

To: longnshort who wrote (3779)	1/4/2007 1:29:27 PM
From: Ichy Smith	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20106

Christians face East and Muslims face another direction? Christians don't take their shoes off and pray with naked feet? I am sure that praying Christians will resist tickling the Muslims while they pray.......

To: longnshort who wrote (3779)	1/4/2007 6:43:53 PM
From: Proud_Infidel	Respond to of 20106

The last line says it all...... Muslims pick sacrificial animals at Paterson slaughterhouse Thursday, January 4, 2007 By SACHI FUJIMORI HERALD NEWS northjersey.com Slaughterhouses are usually not festive places. But once a year on the Muslim holiday of Eid ul-Adah, the desolate block outside of ENA Meat Packing in Paterson comes alive as carloads of families line the street. Owned by two Turkish brothers, ENA Meat Packing is one of the few halal slaughterhouses in the area that opens its doors to customers on the holiday, allowing them to choose their own animal. Customers watch as the animal is sacrificed, a prayer is said in their name and the meat is prepared to be taken home. Eid ul-Adah, tied to the end of the Hajj pilgrimage to Mecca, commemorates the Prophet Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his first son, Ishmael, to God. At the last minute God spared Ishmael, allowing Abraham to sacrifice a lamb instead. On the holiday, Muslim families purchase a lamb, goat or cow and divide the meat in thirds among family, friends and the poor. Many customers are immigrants from traditional Muslim countries like Bangladesh or Morocco, which celebrate Eid as a public holiday. Families often perform the ritual sacrifice in their own backyard. But in the United States, with strict health codes and food safety laws, local Muslims find other ways to celebrate. At ENA, lambs cost $200 and goats cost $175. But not all families buy directly from a slaughterhouse. Some go to their local butcher. Others choose to donate money to a charity in honor of the holiday. Housed in two floors beneath the slaughterhouse, in what used to be a bomb shelter, thousands of livestock await their fate. Helal Ahmed of Paterson stepped onto the sticky dirt floor covering the pen, ready to choose a goat to bring home to his family. As the goats crammed into a corner, Ahmed quickly settled on a brown one with a reddish hue. One employee held the goat by its horns as another spray-painted "93" in large green numerals on its coat, which would be used to identify it later. Moments earlier, in a neighboring pen, Cevat Degirmenci of Long Branch had chosen a large gray lamb with a shiny black face. In the corner of the pen sat a lone sheep with an injured leg that would not be chosen this holiday. The only requirement in choosing an animal is that it be healthy. Later in the day Degirmenci would have friends and family over to his home to share the lamb, which his wife would prepare. According to his Turkish-Muslim tradition, he must share the meat with seven people, he said. Once the animals are chosen they are led to a slaughtering room, where a Muslim employee slits their throats. A prayer is said in the customer's name. "In the name of Allah. Allah is the greatest," is recited. The ritual is meant to symbolize a Muslim's willingness to sacrifice anything to Allah's wishes. The blood is drained from the animal for about 15 minutes. Then the customers, almost all Muslim men, gather on the main slaughter room floor as they watch their numbered animals prepared to be brought home. Last Sunday morning, Safil Kabir, 17, of Paterson waited outside the slaughterhouse with his two cousins. The younger cousin, just 3 years old, was too young to witness the ritual. Kabir said Eid is different in his country, Bangladesh, where the entire nation shuts down for four days. Everyone goes out shopping and people hug family and friends in the street, he said. The ritual is more of a family affair there, he said. The men hold down a cow, tie its legs and slit its throat with a traditional knife shaped like a machete, he said. "Over here they just hang it and kill it," Kabir said. "It's more fun in our country," added his elder cousin, Ahsanul Kabir.