To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (191950 ) 1/7/2007 4:41:05 AM From: Maurice Winn Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 794037 That makes sense: <During the 2006 Anfal campaign trial, the defense team of Saddam Hussein said Peshmerga, a group of separatist guerillas, sided with Iran in its war with Iraq.[1] > I wondered what Saddam had against the Kurds. That's how such wars go. But Saddam's troops seem to have largely killed "military age" males after separating them from the rest. In some conflicts, people bomb whole towns and cities from the sky and that doesn't enable separation of military age males from the rest, as you can imagine. Rumour has it that even people who have English as their first language have been involved in such conflicts and done the same. Right now, Islamic Jihad is doing such things, albeit on a smaller scale. At Beslan, they didn't worry about separating anyone. I read my post to see where it looked like I was "Holocaust denying". You are making it up. Naughty, naughty. We are supposed to just suspend our thinking processes and chant the litany, with Heresy Police standing by to enforce correct thinking and belief. Anfal, according to a quick review of Wikipedia might have been as few as 50,000 males killed. Or, maybe even fewer. Given the scale of the conflict between Iran/Kurds and Saddam's gang, that's in keeping. I'm a bit long in the tooth these days Nadine. When Palestinians assert there was genocide in Jenin, I don't just accept their wild-eyed claims. Same with other claims. When WMDs were "40 minutes from launch", I thought it a joke. It was pretty obvious that there weren't swarms of WMDs lined up ready to go. Maybe some got shipped to Syria [which begs the question as to what they were for, if not to use when the chips were down]. It's pretty obvious that Iraq and the area have been in civil war, or internecine war, and general conflict, including bulk killing of opposing males [just as in eons of human conflict] over millennia. Human history is full of genocidal conquests. Saddam was in an existential fight with Kurds and Iranians. The Sunnis still are, if we believe newspapers each day and as seen on TV. I understand the USA civil war involved a lot of dead males too. That seems to be what happens. They go nuts killing each other in droves. Keep the women and children, kill off all the males. Maoris used to break their enemy prisoner legs and keep them as dinner [they didn't have refrigerators]. Slaves were kept too, until it was time for dinner. Plus ca change, Mqurice