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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (191961)	1/7/2007 11:30:22 AM
From: ManyMoose	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 793912

Mq, you are going off the deep end. Number One: Japan started the war in the Pacific. We didn't. Hiroshima was a lot of deaths in one place that prevented ten times that number in a lot more places. Don't try to cozy up to Americans if you think that's a bad thing. I'm not spending my life with people I obviously don't like. Number Two: Lt. Calley was in a war situation and reacted badly to it. He was held accountable according to the laws of our nation. Saddam promulgated atrocities of every sort and tried to look like a granddaddy tickling the chins of children. He was held accountable according to the laws of his nation. There is NO COMPARISON between the two, and you know it. Thirdly, American soldiers ARE often welcomed with garlands and thanks. Besides that, American has so many people from every country on earth trying to get in and become Americans that it is a genuine problem for us. You don't see any other country with such a problem on that scale. You are looking more and more like a troll, Mq.

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (191961)	1/7/2007 1:37:44 PM
From: kech	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793912

But he separated men from women and children [usually, or when convenient at least]. Very interesting that you think this Mq and nice attempt to qualify. I would say there is no evidence he tried to separate men from women and children when performing his executions. news.bbc.co.uk This one is subtitled" "Almost all Saddam Victims Women and Children" washingtonpost.com 270 Mass Graves identified here with lots of "little bodies" in the picture and references to women and children in text. usaid.gov What evidence do you have, if any. that he tried to separate men from women and children in his executions? What is your agenda with this blatant effort to rewrite history that is so fresh it is so easily corrected?

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (191961)	1/7/2007 3:26:02 PM
From: KLP	Respond to of 793912

Don't know what you're eating, Mq/Harry...and unlike Sally, I don't want any of it. I notice you neglected to answer my questions.... Are you for one minute suggesting that the US stand there and continue to be attacked? And attacked? And attacked? And then when we finally get fed up, and deal with the murdering b******, you and those like you call US the murderers? I find I have little patience for people who continually view the US through glasses that have dogdoo on them....Go ahead, see what you want. You may want to clean those glasses. If you don't, I feel sorry for you.

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (191961)	1/8/2007 7:15:15 PM
From: Neeka	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793912

Do you not understand, really, that Lt Calley did something much worse than that for which Saddam was hung? Do you really and truly not get that? Are you serious? The question is Maurice.......are you serious? Have you read anything about what this man did over the yrs he was supreme dictator? Your claim that what Calley did (I am NOT defending Calley) is worse than what SH did does not hold water and you are just plain wrong. These examples are just a few of the 5,960,000 hits I got when I searched "victims of saddam hussein" Any country would have done the same damned thing to this monster including NZ and I find the comparisons to what this man did and anyone else living today absolutely ridiculous. 113 Kurds Are Found In Mass Grave Hussein Victims Almost All Women, Children BAGHDAD, April 29 -- U.S. investigators have exhumed the remains of 113 people -- all but five of them women, children or teenagers -- from a mass grave in southern Iraq that may hold at least 1,500 victims of Saddam Hussein's campaign against the Kurdish minority in the 1980s, U.S. and Iraqi officials said this week. "These were not combatants," said Gregg Nivala, a member of a U.S. team investigating crimes committed by Hussein's government and assisting the tribunal. "These were women and children." Investigators said that women and children were forced to stand at the edge of the pits, then shot with AK-47 assault rifles. Casings were found near the site, they said. washingtonpost.com Halabja. In mid-March of 1988, Saddam Hussein and his cousin Ali Hassan alMajid -- the infamous "Chemical Ali" -- ordered the dropping of chemical weapons on the town of Halabja in northeastern Iraq. This killed an estimated 5,000 civilians, and is a war crime and a crime against humanity. Photographic and videotape evidence of this attack and its aftermath exists. Some of this is available to scholars and God willing -- to prosecutors through the efforts of the International Monitor Institute in Los Angeles, California. More visual evidence is available from Iranian cameramen, who collected their images of the victims of this brutal attack -- most of whom were women and children -- in a book published in Tehran. The best evidence of all is from the survivors in Halabja itself. washingtonpost.com. 8. Continuing unlawful killings of political opponents. Many groups have documented Saddam Hussein's ongoing campaign against political opponents, including killings, tortures, and -- lately -- rape. As some of you may know, the regime has been using sexual assaults of women in an effort to intimidate leaders of the Iraqi opposition. We salute the courage of opposition leaders such as General Najib al-Salihi for speaking out about this crime. The regime is also carrying out a systematic campaign of murder and intimidation of clergy, especially Shi'a clergy. The number of those killed unlawfully is difficult to estimate but must be well in excess of 10,000 since Saddam Hussein officially seized power in 1980. The number of victims of torture no doubt well exceeds the number of those killed. fas.org "It was like a war front in Dujail," said the first witness, Ahmad Hassan Mohammed, who was 15 at the time. The government bombed the fields, shot some suspects and rounded up men, women and children, Mohammed said. He and others spent more than three years in prison. washingtonpost.com cnn.com en.wikipedia.org telegraph.co.uk