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To: KLP who wrote (192015)	1/7/2007 5:46:55 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793928

K, having a desire to have a programme for WMDs is two steps removed from actually having WMDS. I know that might seem pedantic to you. <We KNOW they had chemical WMD's. We know they were at least working on Bio weapons, and wanted to obtin Nukes..... WHY do you keep saying they didn't have WMD's??? > If one has WMDs, there are actual big objects which go bang. They are heavy and need to be in the form of weapons ready to go. Having WMDs is quite different from once upon a time having had them and having used them in war with Iran and on Kurds [supplied by, ahem, un-named 'third parties' who knew how to make such things]. Wanting to have WMDs is also different from having them. I want to have a nuclear bomb. Heck, gimmee three thousand. That doesn't mean I have WMDs. Having a programme to obtain or make WMDs is also different from having WMDs. Osama is no doubt trying to get, or might even have, WMDs, and possibly even a nuke or two for delivery to Kansas or somewhere. But programmes to obtain WMDS does not mean one has WMDs. Saddam once upon a time had small-scale WMDs, suitable for some small-scale killing of Kurds and Iranian soldiers. He never had 20 megaton beauties like the USA has. Never had weaponized anthrax or what have you. The WMDs supplied by third parties, who might or might not have been, ahem, NATO members, which he did have, were inspected and destroyed by UN inspectors and USA spies [who Saddam resented having running around Iraq in UN uniforms identifying targets]. Maybe there were a few still to go when he ordered them out of Iraq. No matter what he did, the sanctions were staying on his oil. That's interesting wouldn't you say? Maybe the oil-for-food profits were going well and BIG OIL didn't need Iraqi oil flooding the market and neither did the Saudi buddies of USA politicians. Neither did North Sea oil interests [such as the UK government]. Nor many others. And, none were found during or since the conquest of Iraq. Saddam never used them. Don't you think it's possible that there weren't any? I know people are quite capable of believing in ghosts and supernatural beings, so I can understand that they'd believe that there are green elephants at the bottom of the garden - just well-hidden. I prefer to spend my time searching for more realistic things. Perhaps some of the umpty thousand terrorized, maimed and dead resulting from the invasion and conquest would wish that the absence of WMDs was understood BEFORE the invasion. I notice that a very clear majority of Americans have started to think WMDs might not be there and maybe it wasn't quite worth invading Iraq to find them after all. Meanwhile, Osama, who DID conduct the destruction of the Twin Towers and a lot more besides is still on holiday somewhere, regaling his acolytes about the most spectacular attack in human history, as seen on TV. Saddam, the old crony of the USA, is now dead. Maybe if, as Raybon Kan said, if the hanging offence had been treated as seriously when Donald Rumsfeld went to support him, as it was last year, maybe a lot of other carnage could have been avoided. If Donald Rumsfeld was supporting Saddam, doesn't that make him an accomplice, or accessory after the fact or some such legal jargon? Maybe the USA had no idea the hanging offence had happened. If you believe that, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you. As Raybon said, "Who was selling him all the ammo?" Somebody in a NATO country? Maybe it was all the USSR. Mqurice