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To: LindyBill who wrote (192037)	1/7/2007 8:33:07 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 793964

Interesting Lindy. I don't buy the grey ooze theory of human melting pot with globalizing competing national brands. Nor the idea, currently fashionable, that Japan's insularity is a bad thing. Nature is a creative and crystallizing process. A successful gene gets off and running. It proliferates and concentrates where it's most successful. I would not be surprised for there to be natural places for people to live. An example I'm watching is access to cyberspace. In 2000 we moved house and my first requirement was that I have at least ADSL speed cyberspace connection. Any other zone would simply not be good enough. Humans with the brain functions which need cyberspace will nucleate on fibre. Those who have brains which don't, either because of design or inclination, will not. Humans designed for living in cities are different from humans more suitable to rural life. I expect that there are actually genetic differences between those who successfully live in cities and those who don't, and those who are living in rural areas. The set of genes good for living in some places and circumstances doing different things are different from others. People get all weird about racism, race, genes and stuff and especially so when it involves the brain, and even more so when it involves "intelligence". So, sticking with sports, where people don't seem to mind that some people and families have talents which others do not have. A couple of champion sprinters are more likely to produce champion runners than are a couple of my type. Indeed, that is tracked down to fast-twitch muscle fibre [one factor in the matter]. I am racially inferior. Similarly, I suffer melanin deficiency. So I'm racially inferior for sunny places without being very careful, which is quite annoying. But I should be reasonable at anti-malaria having a gene related to resistance to that. And I have genes which make optical fibre a desirable connection. So, I am suitable for non-sprinting, non-sunny, fibrous situations and seem to be okay at big-smokes [countryside gets boring]. Others will be suitable for other situations. If Japan paid me $1 million to be their consultant, I'd say they are doing a good job and they should maintain their exclusivity and not get into the grey ooze theory of humanity. Play to their strengths. Similarly, I think it's reasonable that Israel maintain their "Catholic or Irish" requirements. London has already gone to the grey ooze approach and many people are dead as per Enoch Powell's "rivers of blood" concerns. When push comes to shove, I think Europeans won't just roll over and convert to Islam, but murderous thugs can control a lot of sheeple, so it's quite possible they will. But for decades, I have waited for Germany to do their teutonic thing, and I don't believe I'll be disappointed, when push comes to shove. I recall in the 1980s visiting Frankfurt I think it was, and there was an amusement show and there were lots of tough young guys hanging around with beer and leather jackets. I recall one guy parking the dodgem cars - flat out and all very neatly in a row, totally orderly and precise and efficient. The tough guys were scary looking. It occurred to me that we haven't necessarily seen the last of German nationalism. If they start getting the equivalent of Van Gogh being shot and hacked up with a knife with an Islamic Jihad message stuck in his chest, Germans might get a bit irritated and start marching. I would not want to be a Moslem in Germany given the history of the Final Solution. Damn, I was going to bail out of this stream. I got enmeshed with WMDs and genocide etc, and now you have conned me into it again. Mqurice

To: LindyBill who wrote (192037)	1/7/2007 10:17:02 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793964

I honestly believe that I do see the Israeli argument based on blood as well as religion, primarily because of what TDAXP said (though the following words are my own): the notion that "natural" Jews are biologicals (to borrow a phrase from the world of adoption; here, simply defining "natural" as being by birth). If your mother is a Jew, you're naturally a Jew Stop the presses, Barnett has just figured out that Judaism is an ethnically-based religion. Well bully for him. Maybe one of these years he'll notice the neighborhood and the unfriendly cousins. Now, if I'm wrongly interpreting what it takes to be an Israeli citizen, somebody please correct me and much of this post's logic will gladly dissolve, but it's long been my impression that only Jews (defined by blood or faith) are eligible to become full citizens of the state of Israel. If a Muslim resident living within the areas Israel controls enjoys all the same citizenship and political participation rights as any Jew living there, then I withdraw this post entirely and confess my profound ignorance on this particular subject. I hope the post is gone by now. Moron. There are one million Israeli Arabs and they are full citizens (also Druze, Bedouin, Christians, Samaritans, others). Sure there is plenty of de facto discrimination but they are full citizens. Only difference is that Arabs are not drafted (but Muslim Druze are; and Bedouin quite often volunteer). There is a Druze 3 Star General in the IDF. There is no bar against non-Jews becoming Israeli citizens; but they don't have an automatic right of return and for Arabs it's quite difficult - but not impossible.