To: michael97123 who wrote (212367 ) 1/10/2007 12:56:34 PM From: neolib Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500 When yugo devolved all thought it was bad, but things are better there now. Yes, I should have mentioned that Yugoland actually beats Iraq in that regard. My own bias is towards the melting pot theory, but as one American President famously said, (Teddy R??) a hyphenated American is not an American. I actually don't like that statement, I think the hyphens in American make it a much more interesting place. However, there is truth in that the hyphens tend to weaken with time in a melting pot culture. So the choice is loss of cultural and ethnic identity, or else active protection of same which looks in our day like racism. IMO, there is an almost complete lack of rational discussion in the political sphere on this issue, because of gross injustice in the past which were overcome by create struggle during the civil rights era. One should note that the state of Israel was created when "separate but equal" was in full force in the southern USA. There was not really anything unusual in that regard for the time period. It is not just Israel that faces the issue today either, or Iraq with Kurds, Sunni & Shia but also Muslim minorities in Europe amount to the same issue. Should France be French, should Britain be English, should Denmark be Danes, should the USA be non-Hispanic? The answers are not easy, because preserving culture via ethnic states also perpetually highlights that groups are different including perhaps showing that certain groups fair relatively better long term than other groups, which as you note fuels envy. I don't have the answers, but I dislike the lack of discussion because we don't want to deal with the issues. Is it possible to have strong ethnic identity, while loving your neighbor, or at least at a minimum, treating them respectfully? I'm pretty sure that if one is remotely pleased to hear that your neighbor's child died, we are nowhere near a solution.