Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Politics : American Presidential Politics and foreign affairs -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Peter Dierks who wrote (16335)	1/10/2007 3:30:42 PM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 71588

I bet the singers were AIDS free and the party goes all had AIDS, so it was like dawn of the dead.

To: Peter Dierks who wrote (16335)	2/13/2007 10:17:40 PM
From: Mr. Palau	Respond to of 71588

better rethink your assumptions about this attack "Attorney: Marines involved in alleged attack on Yale singers Jaxon Van Derbeken, Chronicle Staff Writer Tuesday, February 13, 2007 Printable Version Email This Article (02-13) 17:33 PST -- As many as three U.S. Marines were involved in the alleged New Year's attack on the Baker's Dozen singing group, an attorney for two singers is claiming in a letter that asks for the head of the Marine Corps' help in the investigation. The case -- which sparked outrage on both coasts -- began with a dispute at a Richmond District party and ended with members of the singing group telling police they were kicked and beaten. One singer, Sharyar Aziz, Jr., suffered a broken jaw and another, Evan Gogel, a concussion. In a Feb. 9 letter to Lt. General Robert R. Blackman, Jr., the head of the corps, attorney James Hammer named only one of the Marines allegedly involved, saying that he "was one of the men at the center of the attacks and we believe (he) personally participated in the brutal attack on both students.'' The Chronicle is not naming anyone suspected of being involved in the attack as they have not been arrested or charged with crimes. Sgt. Neville Gittens, a spokesman for San Francisco police, said the department's criminal investigation is ongoing. "We're aware of the letter, we are not commenting on the letter.'' The Marines headquarters in San Diego, where the marine named in the letter had been based, had no immediate comment. Hammer, one of the lawyers for Gogel and Aziz, said the named Marine was among the four men detained by police that night in connection with the attack on Gogel but not arrested. The lawyers for the Baker's Dozen said that their clients provided police ample information to make an arrest that night and charge the attackers with assault. Police have since said the victims they were talking to vanished after pointing out their attackers and their absence led to the release of the four men. The incident drew national attention when it was suggested that the group was targeted with anti-homosexual slurs as they gave a rendition of the Star Spangled Banner. In the letter, Hammer said the Marine he identified was also involved in the attack on Aziz, who was "brutally punched in the face after he had turned to walk away'' from a group of men. One doctor observed that Aziz's jaw was broken "by a trained fighter or someone using a deadly weapon.'' The Marine, according to the letter, used a cellular phone to photograph "the wounds to the knuckles of his fellow attackers and proceeded to attempt to destroy evidence in an effort to cover up his involvement and escape prosecution.'' Hammer said that police have been "stymied in their efforts'' to contact the Marine after he was sent overseas to Japan following the incident. "Because of the serious nature of these assaults, I am writing to ask your help in initiating a criminal investigation...and provide whatever assistance you can to San Francisco authorities so that they can interview him in connection with their investigation.'' The letter asserts that while there "is already more than enough evidence'' to charge the Marine with felony assault, the District Attorney's Office has not acted. In a prepared statement, District Attorney Kamala Harris said: "I completely understand the frustration of the victims and the families. But, a rush to judgment does not serve justice. I'm optimistic that the San Francisco Police Department will complete the investigation soon. Once they're done, my office will take action." But in the letter, Hammer said: "At this point, the victims' families are concerned that (the Marine) may escape justice unless the United States Marine Corps takes an active part in investigating his involvement in these violent crimes.'' The evidence suggests, Hammer wrote, that "two other United States Marines may have been involved in this gang attack.'' He concluded that the "case has the potential of generating extremely negative publicity'' for the Marines. The letter states that police are making "diligent efforts'' to investigate the case. "Without your assistance, I am afraid their efforts may be thwarted.'' Whitney Leigh, another attorney for the two Yale singers, said Tuesday that the case has languished too long at the desk of prosecutors. The Aziz family -- which was recently billed for the cost of their son's ambulance and treatment -- has written a letter complaining to Harris about the delay, Leigh said. "They don't have a good explanation why they haven't made a decision,'' Leigh said. "The evidence is overwhelming.''

To: Peter Dierks who wrote (16335)	2/14/2007 10:30:20 AM
From: Mr. Palau	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71588

are you suggesting that the anti-terrorist martial arts marine who beat the hell of the yalies was gay? don't you hate it when your black and white world goes all gray on you, lol? >>Maybe the attendees didn't like the way they were handling it. The name of the singer they quoted makes one wonder if it was a race based attack. For all we know, the singers were HETEROSEXUAL and it might have been a sexual orientation based attack<< Message 23171263 "Lawyers representing the Yale students and their families have sent this letter, demanding action from the U.S. Marine Corps. One of the young men detained by police that night is Marino Peradotto, a member of an elite Marine anti-terrorism team. He's been trained in martial arts and close-quarters combat. He's a graduate of Sacred Heart High School and a close friend of the Aicardi brothers. He's yet to be interviewed by police investigators, and has now been shipped out to Japan. Whitney Leigh, Gonzalez & Leigh Law Firm: "Justice delayed is justice denied, and it's hard to explain why given the evidence that we know that the district attorney and police have that arrests have not already been made." Lawyers for the Yale students say Peradotto kicked singer Evan Gogel in the head -- one witness described it as like someone "kicking a soccer ball." Gogel suffered a serious concussion. The letter to the Marines says Peradotto "took photographs of the wounds to the knuckles of his fellow attackers" and tried "to destroy that evidence in an effort to cover up his involvement and escape prosecution." sfgate.com