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To: TimF who wrote (319983)1/11/2007 4:58:20 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER  Respond to of 1575725
 
Re: While a totalitarian democracy would be odd, and it can be argued that we've never seen one, it isn't a contradiction in terms. Totalitarian is the opposite of free, not the opposite of democratic.

Discourse on Voluntary Servitude
The Discours sur la servitude volontaire
of
ÉTIENNE DE LA BOÉTIE [*],

1548
Rendered into English by
HARRY KURZ


[Published under the title
ANTI-DICTATOR]

New York: COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY PRESS: 1942.

DEDICATION

COPYRIGHT 1942
COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY PRESS, NEW YORK
First printing, January, 1942
Second printing, June, 1942
[Copyright not renewed, so now in public domain.]

constitution.org

[*] fr.wikipedia.org



To: TimF who wrote (319983)1/11/2007 2:07:08 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575725
 
A move towards totalitarianism automatically is a move away from democracy.

No it isn't. Totalitarianism requires an extreme level of government control, but it doesn't automatically imply a lack of democracy. While a totalitarian democracy would be odd, and it can be argued that we've never seen one, it isn't a contradiction in terms. Totalitarian is the opposite of free, not the opposite of democratic.


Democracy: a : government by the people; especially : rule of the majority b : a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections

Totalitarian:1 a : of or relating to centralized control by an autocratic leader or hierarchy : AUTHORITARIAN, DICTATORIAL; especially : DESPOTIC b : of or relating to a political regime based on subordination of the individual to the state and strict control of all aspects of the life and productive capacity of the nation especially by coercive measures (as censorship and terrorism)

Nope. You have totalitarianism/democracy mixed up with capitalism. It would be a restriction on our capitalism; not our democracy. In fact, putting a cap on some wages would be enhancing our democracy.

Totalitarianism is incompatible with capitalism, because a totalitarian regime controls the economy to a very large extent rather then a free market.


China is a totalitarian gov't with a growing capitalistic economic model.

and with baseball, gov't can refuse to fund and subsidize sports stadiums.

I actually agree with that idea, but apparently for different reasons.


No, its the same reason.........I just have two motivations.....one is yours and the other is restricting A-Rod's pay.