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To: epicure who wrote (212496)1/11/2007 10:26:03 AM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
The US is constantly meddling. That's what our ballooning "international aid" budgets are all about. I would disagree we do it seldom. I'd say we do it all the time, and with very little payback (imo).

Well that defends on how you want to define meddle. I was talking about full scale invasions. They aren't all that common!

I don't think Grenada mattered much. I don't know why we bothered. Panama? I thought the Norriega mess was very poorly handled. Norriega was a US creature- hired by the CIA, and in many ways quite a bit like Saddam.

Would Panama and Grenada been better off had the US not invaded - that was my question. It was addressing your claim that we always "screw up" the meddling. Maybe you're right, and they would have had even stronger economies now had we left them well enough alone. But I doubt it.

Meddling is more than the actual invasion- it's the assassinations, the support of coups, the encouragement of rebellion, the bribes, the "development loans", the dumps of US products as "aid". When I talk about meddling, it's the whole ball of wax- and on balance I don't think the US is very good at it.

Got it, but that's too broad a topic for me to have on a discussion board. Sounds like you want to discuss whether the US should close its borders to the outside world a la Japan in 1670 (or whenever). I got no strong opinion on that subject - it's too broad for me.



To: epicure who wrote (212496)1/11/2007 12:42:23 PM
From: bentway  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
"Norriega was a US creature- hired by the CIA, and in many ways quite a bit like Saddam."

One result of our continual meddling in latin America is the strong socialistic direction it has today. We've been at it down there since Eisenhower, propping up our international fruit companies at the expense of the natives.

We never factor in the unintended consequences of our meddling, and they consistently bite us in the ass.