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To: jlallen who wrote (212580)	1/11/2007 4:10:24 PM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

OK, so now we've established that you're not a wounded-in-action combat vet and that you never saw combat. That leaves only the question of whether you have ever implied that you were. I don't have the level of use on this site to go back and research that but if anyone does, simply use the key words, "Jlallen, wounded, combat, attorney, cnyndwllr" or some related terms and the posts should come up. In them Jlallen implies, and allows others to claim, that he's a disabled combat vet. He does say that "those who've been there don't like to talk about it," or words to that effect but the meaning is clear. That's why I called him "attorney action hero" for some time. It disgusted me then and it disgusts me now. Ed

To: jlallen who wrote (212580)	1/11/2007 5:10:49 PM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

How about this post from you where you were no longer claiming you weren't an attorney during your time in the service? Then you were trying to assert that even attorneys could see combat. Now why did you think that was important then? Huh? Message 19784721 "To: cnyndwllr who wrote (536763) 2/9/2004 9:28:23 AM From: jlallen Read Replies (1) of 757181 You assume a lot of facts not in evidence scumbag.... Try a google.....on John J. Coughlin, former Hillsborough County Attorney...a friend and a lawyer.....now on active duty in Iraq in a combat post.....he was a reservist forced to resign his civilian job to do his duty in Iraq....I believe he told me his duty post was in Fallujah....reservists arwe often called to combat postings in major military conflagrations....such as Iraq, the 91 Gulf War, etc....facts are reservists come from all kinds of jobs, doctors, lawyers, mechanics, techies, policemen, firemen, etc..... That's just one small example of an attorney who is posted to combat...happens all the time with reservists....course if you knew as much as you claimed......you'd know that.... but being a lying, scumbag POS.....your true ignorance shines through....And your "dissing" of reservists is of course lower than whale poop..... As usual, you have not a clue about what you are talking about...quite the norm for all Bush hating pinheaded morons.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA What a boob..... " And my reply: siliconinvestor.com "Attorney Action Figure, Jlallen, I wasn't referring to lawyer John J. Coughlin. I was referring to you. In your case you have mentioned that you have been an attorney for 18 years and that you were medically discharged from the army years ago. Now why doesn't that add up to a likely role as a combat veteran? Can you guess? It's no big deal unless some Attorney Action Figure intimates that he has special insight gained from combat experience, which he just happens to never mention-because "those that have that experience never talk about it, of course." It is evidently ok, however, to let others talk about Attorney Action Figure's purported "shrapnel wounds" from the Gulf War. The point is that it's not a big deal whether most of us did or didn't serve in combat. It is a big deal, however, to those that did see combat when some chickenhawk, lilly livered, big talking, wannabe, hints around that he's seen combat, suffered wounds and knows what it's like to have been in front of bullets. Stop trying to be something you're not. If, by some fluke, you really happen to have seen combat as an attorney, then stop hinting about it and at least give a rational scenario of how that DID happen. I've never heard anyone who has really seen combat say such empty headed shit as you do about war. The best thing for you to do would be to tell what is almost surely the truth; as much as you've envied the battle experience of others, the closest you've gotten to the front was to talk to someone who'd been there. The men and women who have seen war understand far more about what it is and what it does than you will ever learn watching John Wayne movies and buying "Presidential Flight Suit Action Figures." STOP POSING. PRETENDERS DO A GRAVE DISSERVICE TO THE SMALL NUMBER OF MEN WHO DID SERVE UNDER FIRE. I hope that's simple enough for even a bad attorney to comprehend.

To: jlallen who wrote (212580)	1/11/2007 5:52:57 PM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

How about this series of posts? Do you think you might have implied something here? Too funny: --------------------------------- To: jlallen who wrote (439997) 8/8/2003 2:21:02 PM From: cnyndwllr Read Replies (3) of 757187 Jlallen, you amaze me. How many times have you and other neo-con supporters been all wrapped in the flag. "It's all about our troops." ... "Bush supports our troops." .... "You that criticize the war are harming our troops and demeaning their efforts" Now, when you ask Steve whether he's served and you find out that he was: "Awarded the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry with Bronze Star," all you say is: "You are correct in one respect...Iraq is NO LONGER a direct threat to our nation....." How about "thank you." How about "I appreciate what you sacrificed for our country." How about anything that would indicate that you have a real respect for what great sacrifice actually is when others are making it FOR ALL OF US. You're not alone, I notice none of the other "wrapped in the flag" posters utterred a word. For my part I'd like to thank Steve Dietrich for risking his life and distinguishing himself with valor in the service of our country. Thank you Steve and welcome home. Ed ----------------------------------------- To: cnyndwllr who wrote (440058) 8/8/2003 2:33:23 PM From: cozmokramer Read Replies (2) of 757187 Well, the behavior of jlallen and his ilk doesn't surprise me at all. That is exactly what we see at the very top of the neocon ladder as well, as the recent cuts in Veterans' benefits have shown. Yes, the Bush cabal "supports" our troops -- they want somebody else to go die for them, and those who do come back alive, get screwed by them. -------------------------------------------------- To: cozmokramer who wrote (440061) 8/8/2003 2:42:12 PM From: jlallen Read Replies (1) of 757187 LOL! As a vet myself...I feel no need to pat SD on the back nor explain myself to pinheads like yourself or your pal....As usual, you pinheads let your feelings get out front of the facts.... JLA ---------------------------------------------------- To: jlallen who wrote (440066) 8/8/2003 4:06:29 PM From: cnyndwllr Read Replies (1) of 757187 Jlallen re: >>"As a vet myself...I feel no need to pat SD on the back..."<< So you're saying that "as a vet [yourself]" you feel no need to thank Steve for his time as a soldier when he was under fire risking his life and was decorated for valor in a violent, deadly, ignored, lost war? What kind of vet were you? What kind of man are you? What kind of American are you? You've wrapped yourself in the flag, you've called others unAmerican, unpatriotic and treasonous. The difference between men of courage, conviction and character, and hypocrits, however, lies in their hearts, not their words. Jlallen, your statement says a lot about you and the picture it paints is not a pretty one. ---------------------------------------------------- To: cnyndwllr who wrote (440123) 8/8/2003 4:09:42 PM From: jlallen Read Replies (1) of 757187 No. I don't feel a need to thank sd. In my experience, we don't go around patting each other on the back nor bragging about what we did....(I'm not saying sd was bragging)..If you find that offensive....so be it....I can live with that picture......actually, given your posts....I take your disapproval as a compliment.... -------------------------------------------------- To: jlallen who wrote (440126) 8/8/2003 4:30:12 PM From: cnyndwllr Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 757187 Jlallen, re: >>"No. I don't feel a need to thank sd. In my experience, we don't go around patting each other on the back nor bragging about what we did....(I'm not saying sd was bragging).."<< "We?" What is it "we did" that "we're" not bragging about? Are you putting yourself in the same class as Steve? Did you have bullets, shrapnel and rpgs coming your way to rip the limbs and life out of you? Phoney. You dint do nuthin. If you had you'd have wrapped yourself in that too. For you to imply you did is just more hypocrisy. Take a look in the mirror and stop fooling yourself. ------------------------------------------------- To: cnyndwllr who wrote (440138) 8/8/2003 4:33:03 PM From: jlallen Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 757187 LOL! As usual, you have not a clue.... --------------------------------------------------- To: cnyndwllr who wrote (440138) 8/8/2003 4:41:23 PM From: Rainy_Day_Woman Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 757187 Did you have bullets, shrapnel and rpgs coming your way to rip the limbs and life out of you? as a matter of fact he did nothing phoney about mr allen -------------------------------------------------- To: Rainy_Day_Woman who wrote (440155) 8/8/2003 5:09:35 PM From: jlallen Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 757188 Thanks for the thought.....no need to defend me though....these rabid Bush haters are not worth the effort... --------------------------------------------------- To: jlallen who wrote (440174) 8/8/2003 9:11:04 PM From: Rainy_Day_Woman Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 757188 I'm not defending you just setting the record straight --------------------------------------------- And there was dead silence from Jlallen, a later admitted attorney for 18 years.