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To: tejek who wrote (320261)	1/12/2007 12:54:42 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574610

Henderson (or Reynolds who Henderson quoted) was arguing that the middle class wasn't disappearing. If your going to debunk him (as you claimed you did) you would have to show that it was disappearing (or at the very least that his data and arguments to show it was not are false). No I don't. The "disappearing middle class" argument is the right's strawman answer to the statement: the rich are getting richer at the expense of the middle class. Do you really think we are not as smart as you all and can't see through your deflections? 1 - Its not a straw man. I encounter the argument all of the time from people left of center (and even from some not left of center). 2 - Even if Reynolds was himself debunking a straw man, pointing that out, and then making a separate argument about a different issue, isn't debunking his argument, but you claimed you where debunking his argument. And as I keep pointing out to you is that divergence between the rate of change for the incomes of the upper classes and incomes of the lower classes is significant. Perhaps it is, perhaps it isn't, but even if you assume it is, the "at the expense of" line is silly because when the wealthy generate new wealth its often to the benefit of the non wealthy, not at their expense. But even the rich getting richer faster then the middle class is not something that is solidly established. What is wrong with you? The facts are staring you in the face. Yes, but apparently they aren't staring you in the face, you choose to turn away and ignore them.