To: Peter Ecclesine who wrote (18866 ) 1/12/2007 1:45:23 AM From: Frank A. Coluccio Respond to of 46821 Hi Peter. re: "is UDP IP?" While I understand the intent behind the rhetorical nature of your question, for the benefit of lurkers I'll answer you: Yes, UDP is a basic protocol element within the Internet Protocol stack, or suite: en.wikipedia.org "Jobs prezo shows the perils of 'Open Architecture', and endless new devices to make work with the 'Open Architecture.'" I commented on this earlier, edited for venue: "It's quite ironic, when you think about it. There are vendors presently developing closed platforms for use at the user edge that are based on proprietary software, including hand held devices and personal area networks that could NOT easily be supported in a successful manner were it not for network neutrality. In other words, any vendor that espouses a proprietary "framework" at the user's edge is accommodated best by a network that is entirely transparent and devoid of toll booths, speed bumps and road hogs bearing special privileges. Unless, of course, such applications are designed to work in concert with carriers' billing and provisioning protocols like IMS, and where privileges are paid for by the vendor to the carrier in the form of a vig as part of the deal. I can't say for sure, but this may be, in part at least, what we are seeing taking place here." You asked: "When will Sprint have an iPhone working via the Bluetooth interface on Sprint cellphones?" I don't know. 2008? I don't know enough about the data link and backend needs of iPhone. Is it slated to work over Cingular's packet infrastructure sans the muck of IMS? Or, does it look for certain hooks for session control, signaling, DRM, etc., from the carrier? As far as evaluating a litigating party's intentions prior to a judgement, you can call me disinterested, or bordering on untrusting, but I think it's far too easy to feign a desire for promoting interoperability in an open architecture if there is nothing that legally binds one to do so. And to arrive at that final stage, where everyone agrees to openness, I would then ask, what other, subordinate terms are there with respect to fees and signage (whose name goes on top? sorta thing) that goes along with such an agreement? Court transcripts are great for the amount of trustworthy information they make available when compared to mere hearsay. FAC ---