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Politics : WAR on Terror. Will it engulf the Entire Middle East? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Scoobah who wrote (18934)	1/12/2007 1:07:51 PM
From: Ichy Smith	Respond to of 32591

better point some of those missiles at Russia and France, they have been helping with this nonsense for years.

To: Scoobah who wrote (18934)	1/12/2007 1:17:48 PM
From: Ichy Smith	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 32591

Now if we can just get some of the Muslims to cooperate and kidnap Hilary, think how much better a president she would make dressed as a proper Muslim woman. Imagine Bill Clinton as first lady to an obedient and respectful wife. Please note the bottom paragraph where Senator McCain supports........... George Bush Clinton heads for Iraq January 12, 2007 Associated Press WASHINGTON – Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton and two other legislators will go to Iraq this weekend as Congress fiercely debates President George W. Bush's plan to send 21,500 more troops to salvage the U.S. war effort there. Clinton, a Democrat from New York who is considering running for president, is travelling with Indiana Senator Evan Bayh, who had also eyed the 2008 race but opted out, and Representative John McHugh, a Republican from upstate New York. The three, all members of armed services committees, are scheduled to meet with top Iraqi officials and U.S. military commanders. The trip also takes them to Afghanistan. "This was the first opportunity we had to be able to go because of the long weekend, and it turns out that the timing is propitious because of the president's plans," said Clinton, who opposes Bush's plan to send more U.S. troops to Iraq. During the trip, Clinton and McHugh will spend time with troops from the Army's 10th Mountain Division, which is based in New York and deployed in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Bayh stressed he wants to meet with top Iraqi officials and judge for himself how serious they are about using their own troops and leadership to stabilize the country. "The essential truth in Iraq is that we can't do this for them," said Bayh. "We need to take away their security blanket." McHugh has not been as critical of the Bush administration's handling of the war as the two Democrats, but like many Republicans in Congress he has sounded increasingly exasperated with conditions in Iraq. McHugh said he wanted to warn Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki of the dwindling patience in Washington. "It's folly to think that you can stabilize 80 per cent of a country while one of the most important sites in the Middle East, Baghdad, is in total chaos. You can't just shove that under the rug," he said. It's Clinton's third visit to Iraq. She went last in February 2005 with Senator John McCain, a Republican presidential contender. McCain, meantime, defended Bush’s Iraq plan as a difficult but necessary move, parting company with those on Capitol Hill who question the wisdom of the military buildup. “I believe that together these moves (Bush's plan to increase U.S. troop numbers) will give the Iraqis and Americans the best chance of success,” said McCain.

To: Scoobah who wrote (18934)	1/12/2007 2:30:31 PM
From: American Spirit	Respond to of 32591

Are you nuts? The war we've been needing to do? What, quagmiring ourselves in a messy civil war where we can't tell friend from foe, with open borders all around inviting in hostile fighters who can get easy shots at killing our troops? Have you lost your mind? There is not a single benefit which has comne out of this war for us. We are going to waste a trillion dollars and some 30,000 US troops killed and maimed, plus we have strengthened every unfriendly group in the region. It is a total debacle and clusterf**k. And Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11 or Al Qaida. Nothing. Zero. In fact Al Qaida was probably planning to take out Saddam themselves one of these days, if they could. meanwhile in Afghanistan, Bush bmade a promising start then when the CIA needed 600 Rangers at Tora Bora to cut off Osama Bin ALden's escape, they were denied the request, so our real enemy got away and is still at large 4 years later. What a catastrophe. I tell you, almost everything we have done over there since Tora Bora is exactly what Bin Laden would want us to do. So whether you know it or not, you are on his side.