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To: Sully- who wrote (24986)1/12/2007 4:58:08 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
The Mommy Party

Barbara Boxer faults Condoleezza Rice--for not having children?

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BY JAMES TARANTO
Friday, January 12, 2007

At a hearing of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee yesterday, Sen. Barbara Boxer quizzed Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Iraq strategy. The New York Post is rightly appalled at what Boxer had to say:

<<< "Who pays the price? I'm not going to pay a personal price," Boxer said. "My kids are too old, and my grandchild is too young."

Then, to Rice: "You're not going to pay a particular price, as I understand it, with an immediate family." . . .

The junior senator from California apparently believes that an accomplished, seasoned diplomat, a renowned scholar and an adviser to two presidents like Condoleezza Rice is not fully qualified to make policy at the highest levels of the American government because she is a single, childless woman.

It's hard to imagine the firestorm that similar comments would have ignited, coming from a Republican to a Democrat, or from a man to a woman, in the United States Senate. >>>

Part of the reason this is shocking, of course, is because it breaches feminist etiquette. If Boxer had said this to a male official who had no children, it wouldn't have carried quite the same sting--though it would still be creepy.

We've remarked frequently upon the tendency of war opponents to infantilize American servicemen--by demanding, for example, to know why President Bush hasn't "sent" his daughters to fight in Iraq, as if he had the power as their father to order them to enlist.

In truth, members of the military are adults who have made an adult commitment. They deserve to be respected for their maturity, not patronized as victims. It dishonors them to use their sacrifice as a political cudgel.

opinionjournal.com



To: Sully- who wrote (24986)1/16/2007 5:53:30 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
The Left's Tiresome "Chicken-hawk" Mantra

By David Limbaugh
Townhall.com Columnist
Tuesday, January 16, 2007

Senator Barbara Boxer has mastered the art of rudeness much better than she has cultivated wisdom on weighty matters of state.

When questioning Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on the president's Iraq war policy, Boxer uttered a series of bizarre rhetorical questions. They were obviously intended to discredit Rice, not based on her support of the president's presumably dubious war strategy, but because she doesn't have children, which disqualifies her from participating in a decision that could affect people's children.

Referring to war, Boxer said, "Who pays the price? I'm not going to pay a personal price. My kids are too old and my grandchild is too young. You're not going to pay a particular price, as I understand it, with an immediate family. So who pays the price? The American military and their families."

Despite her professional and personal accomplishments, Rice is frequently a target for liberals, who apparently find Rice's Republican Party membership a particular betrayal, given her gender and race, which to liberals mean unquestioned allegiance to liberalism.

The liberal establishment demands that blacks and women and especially black women toe the liberal line, and when they deviate, they deserve the establishment's collective wrath. Indeed, such is the magnitude of their infidelity that they forfeit any expectation of civility from the left.

We saw this on graphic display when liberal cartoonists savaged Rice in racially pointed cartoons during her confirmation hearings without so much as a whimper of disapproval from self-styled racially sensitive liberals.

At the hearings -- as I chronicle in my book -- Senator Boxer exhibited a viciously insulting tone toward Rice, telling her, "I personally believe -- this is my personal view -- that your loyalty to the mission you were given, to sell the war, overwhelmed your respect for the truth." Democrats didn't condemn Boxer -- even though she compounded the egregiousness of her baseless accusation by boastfully showcasing it in an exploitive fundraising e-mail she sent for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.

Boxer's credentials for rudeness thus being established, how should we evaluate the reasonableness of her implied argument that Rice's opinion is worthless because she has no children who could be affected by it?

This line of reasoning, of course, is nothing new for liberals.
I wish I had a dime for every time I've heard one of them say that those who didn't serve have no moral right to opine on war issues. This "chicken-hawk" argument is so childishly misguided you would think liberals, who consider themselves superior logicians and cerebral sophisticates, would be too embarrassed to make it.

The question is not who is qualified to opine, but whether an opinion has merit, irrespective of the characteristics of its proponents or opponents. Under liberal logic, the rich-from-birth Ted Kennedy is disqualified from empathizing with and advocating for the poor. And, the Framers should have limited the franchise in presidential elections to military personnel and their parents, and maybe their grandparents, but not aunts, uncles, brother, sisters or cousins.

Interestingly, Boxer pretended she had no standing to opine either, since her children are too old and her grandchildren too young to serve. But that didn't stop her from making clear her view that the war is not worth American lives, because her opinion is sanctified by its liberalism. Since she's against the war, the ending of which would supposedly end the risk to American lives, her opinion is legitimate.

What this really boils down to is the antiwar left's intolerance for dissenting opinions and their propensity to make decisions on an emotional, rather than logical basis.
If you don't agree with them, you either aren't listening -- another charge Boxer leveled at Rice -- or you don't have the right to opine. But Boxer's logic is self-defeating: If your personal circumstances disqualify you from opining, they do so regardless of the nature of your opinion.

Further, Boxer's underlying assumption is that the Iraq war is not worth the risk of American lives. While that is something about which reasonable people can disagree, we can't ever get to that point in the discussion if one side intimidates the other into silence.

It is conceivable that the implementation of Boxer's antiwar opinion could put more American lives -- military and civilian -- at risk in the long run, by weakening the United States emboldening terrorists and contributing to the conversion of Iraq into a launching pad for global terrorism. Or do I have enough of a stake in America to entitle me to such an audacious opinion?

Many on the antiwar left are still oblivious to the global nature of the war and that Iraq's destiny is central to it. They seem to believe we can flip a switch and end this war -- by a solitary executive order.

But disregard my opinion on that, too, since I've never been the commander in chief.

David Limbaugh, brother of radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh, is an expert in law and politics and author of Bankrupt: The Intellectual and Moral Bankruptcy of Today's Democratic Party.

townhall.com



To: Sully- who wrote (24986)1/17/2007 6:49:36 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
Losing Standing

Faster, Please!
The Michael Ledeen blog
In screeds

I think Barbara Boxer's sortie into geopolitical free association tells us a lot about contemporary American liberalism, and thus about the popular culture. I rather suspect her language was cheered by many on university campuses, in newsrooms and broadcast studios, and in Hollywood's many locations. The bottom line: it's all about feeling, never mind knowledge and logic. There is a straight line from "if it feels good, do it" to Boxer's rant:

<<< "Who pays the price?" Boxer asked Rice. "I'm not going to pay a personal price. My kids are too old and my grandchild is too young. You're not going to pay a particular price, as I understand it, with immediate family.

"So who pays the price? The American military and their families." >>>

In other words, in the Senatrix's view, neither she nor the secretary of state is really entitled to make policy on the war, because neither of them "pays the price," neither can have the appropriate feelings. Those are limited to soldiers and their loved ones.

In like manner, only women can understand other women, and thus only women doctors can effectively treat women patients, only women can teach women's history or women's sociology and so forth. Only blacks can understand other blacks, with the same consequences. Only Muslims can understand the Koran and Shari'a law, only Jews should teach Jewish history, only gays can understand homosexuality, and on and on it goes.

The theory that you must have the correct emotions in order to understand a body of knowledge or master a particular subject is a corollary of the doctrine that there is no objective truth (knowledge being no more or less than an instrument of power). Every idea is held to be subjective, and thus--again--emotions and feelings are the most important things. Indeed, for a certain kind of contemporary liberal, they are the only things that matter.

If you believe that, there is obviously no point in studying anything, except to provoke emotional reactions, and you will be unable to distinguish between the validity of conflicting emotions.

Had Rice been inclined to point out the absurdity of Boxer's position, the Senatrix could have responded with other arrows prominently stashed in the liberal quiver: she could have accused the secretary of state of being a chickenhawk. Note that Boxer implicitly disqualified anyone who hasn't served, or who doesn't have relatives in service, from "standing" to speak about the war.

Those of us who have supported the war for a long time have been attacked countless times for presumed chickenhawkery (it's unlucky for many of these critics, since an impressive number of Washington pundits have children serving in the military, but no matter), as if anyone who had a child on the battlefield would automatically be anti-war.

That, I suspect, is the suppressed premise of Boxer's outburst. I suspect Boxer probably believes that no woman with children on the battlefield could advocate aggressive policies.

How wrong she is.

pajamasmedia.com