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To: robert a belfer who wrote (192855)1/13/2007 5:20:40 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793851
 
Correct me if I am wrong

The NK's used bad conditions and indoctrination to get some to convert. There was a lot of casual brutality, but that wasn't the reason the troops went over.

Not that torture doesn't work. But you use it only when speed is essential. Based on what I have read, I would start out anyone I wanted info from with a waterboard. In spite of all the hoo-haa, it really is not what I would call torture. All mental, when you get down to it. No bruises, split skin, or broken bones.



To: robert a belfer who wrote (192855)1/13/2007 6:55:45 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Respond to of 793851
 
Torture never stopped working, at least to some extent. You just hear a lot of people who don't want to face any hard decisions claiming that it doesn't work, because then you don't have need to make any difficult decisions about when you would consider using it. Because everybody knows it doesn't work, right?

These are usually the same people who claim that we don't have any enemies either, just people whose grievances haven't been sufficiently appeased.


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