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To: American Spirit who wrote (73803)	1/14/2007 9:32:04 PM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

That will nail cheney... I think it's vital to nail Cheney, just to get him to leave office. Right now Bush Jr. does not take Congress seriously because no matter what he does nobody is going to impeach him if Cheney is next in line. If Cheney has to quit, Bush Jr. just might wake up to reality. TP

To: American Spirit who wrote (73803)	1/14/2007 9:38:03 PM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 89467

FROM THOSE WONDERFUL FOLKS WHO GAVE YOU PEARL HARBOR By Norman Horowitz* huffingtonpost.com 01.14.2007 Jerry Della Femina wrote a book with this title quite a few years ago. As I recall, Della Femina, working for an advertising agency, was sitting in a meeting trying to come up with an advertising slogan for the then new Japanese electronic manufacturer, SONY. As the hour grew late, he suggested: "how about from those fabulous people who brought you Pearl Harbor." He of course was being funny, and his idea was certainly cute. I thought about this as I watched our Secretary of State appearing before a Senate Committee, not answering questions as to the effectiveness of President Bush's plans for sending twenty odd thousand of our sons and daughter to Iraq to institute his new plan for "whatever." She was full of confidence as to the "plans" effectiveness. Look at the last 4 years and one might ask anyone in the Bush administration "why will this plan work when all of your other plans have failed?" Or you could say that the plan is "FROM THOSE WONDERFUL FOLKS WHO GAVE YOU THE IRAQI WAR!" After all, they are that fabulous administration that brought us the certainty of WMD's in Iraq, the "mission accomplished" debacle, the connection of Iraq to 9/11, we will be greeted as liberators statements, we are winning the war over and over, Rumsfeld is doing a heck of a job and will be there until we achieve victory etcetera." Little of anything that they have said was true or has turned out to be true, and the vast majority of what they have planned has gone wrong. THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN A CONSTITUTIONAL BREAKING OPERATIONAL DISASTER. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO ALLOW US TO THINK THAT THE PRESIDENT IS IN ANY BETTER POSITION TO DO THE RIGHT THING NOW IN THAT HE HAS DONE EVERYTHING WRONG IN THE PAST? WHY DON'T THE BROADCAST NETWORK NEWS ANCHORS ASK THE SAME QUESTION? ___________________________ *Norm Horowitz is a broad-based senior executive with almost 50 years of diverse media experience, he has been actively involved in all aspects of the telecommunications industry from the early days of worldwide television through the development of cable, satellite, internet, as well as other forms of digital delivery, (wireless, game platforms etc). Horowitz has been an adjunct professor at the UCLA Graduate Business and Film Schools, as well as an associate professor at California State University, Northridge. He has also been a guest-lecturer at UC Berkeley, NYU, Pepperdine University, USC, Cal State Fullerton, UCLA, and St. Peter's College.

To: American Spirit who wrote (73803)	1/14/2007 9:44:10 PM
From: combjelly	Respond to of 89467

"Can you think of one thing positive thing Cheney has done since he's been in office?" He shot some guy in the face. Does that count?

To: American Spirit who wrote (73803)	1/14/2007 11:06:19 PM
From: LTK007	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 89467

With Halliburton money the legal team can hang this up in litigation for years. i keep sayinmg people you can take both of them out. i will say now , unless you go for Bush first they BOTH will remain. Fact,Congress will keep just going to chasing their tail as Bush marches U.S. over a cliff. Why, because you A.S. represent the vast majority of the democraric majority and thus their will be NOTHING done in time. None of you feel urgency, you all are whistlng in a graveyard. Justin Raimondo has called for a million person civil disobedience martch into the center of the capitol , with intend to disrupt traffic and flow of business until something immediate is done. Henry Thoreau wrote a great book called Civil Disobbediance. Martin Luther King practiced it hard as did Gandhi, but they were RADICAL--scary!. Justin, these libs are phonies, they might get their suits dirty, so forgettaboutit. Max, shoot me i am a RADICAL.