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To: Dale Baker who wrote (33735)	1/20/2007 1:28:19 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541896

Once she finishes tacking right and tacking left then tacking back to the center, many folks will end up wondering what she stands for, myself included. You are likely to see that in all the serious candidates with the possible exception of Edwards. Certainly Obama, Clinton, McCain, and Guiliani will be doing it. And all will have to deal with the question you ask. And all but Obama will have to frame that tacking within their existing public personalities. I don't, thus, see the tacking problem as uniquely a Clinton problem. She has that "wooden" public persona problem. If she finds some way to overcome that, combined with the money and the political advising bit, I don't see anyone else with enough strength to overcome her for the Dem nomination. And, as I've said, as of this moment, I don't think the strong general election candidates on the Rep side can make it through the primaries. McCain, for instance, has already damaged himself with independents by moving to the right.

To: Dale Baker who wrote (33735)	1/20/2007 2:46:48 PM
From: Mary Cluney	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541896

Once she finishes tacking right and tacking left then tacking back to the center, many folks will end up wondering what she stands for, myself included. She has a lot to overcome judging by what you are saying here. You represent the views of a lot of very intelligent and well informed people. But, just give her a chance. Keep your mind open. A lot of people didn't give her much of a chance to become senator in New York, but she won almost every county in NY State. Upstate NY is very much a red state. Judge her by what she is doing in NY and not by her association with president Clinton. By contrast president Clinton was an undisciplined immediate gratification type not unlike the current president. The difference is that president Clinton is much smarter than the current president, much better informed, and not lazy (they call it lacking curiosity). Hillary is everything that president Clinton represents from a public policy perspective but is clearly much more disciplined. She does not seem to have any sort of personal demons. By the way she performs as senator, things seem to work well around her. No glitches, no scandal, nothing ever goes wrong. Just that alone, that she is competent, gives me great comfort if she is to replace the current president.