To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (13725 ) 1/22/2007 8:38:08 PM From: elmatador Respond to of 217656 International law governs the relations between countries. Every country has to abide to international law. If you have a dispute, you go to arbitration. If the dispute seriously threatens you go to war to defend your interest. Thus the saying of: War is diplomacy by other means. The nation-state, this dangerous anachronism, has always broken international law, when it found powerful enough to defend itself. Against the powerful nation-state, countries made treaties among them to gang up against the powerful nation-state. Nothing has changed. Today is still the same. The better your diplomats are, the less you need to go to war. The worse your diplomats are, the more conflicts you have. Not many countries were worried about the power of the US because the US abides to international law. Even today to invade Iraq it needs the support of countries, albeit Tonga, Latvia, Slovakia... Even though it took Iraq, it needed to get a government in place to avoid being called an occupation. This is basic stuff. How comes the overall majority of intelligent and law abiding citizen do not understand that International law exists? MQ thinks that just having the aircraft carrier Forestall solves all problems. Let me own USD because the US can send the Marines any time. Nothing can be far from truth. This may have an appeal to the guys who live beyond the Appalachians :-), but that doesn’t cut here in this thread. The US could never, ever, remove Cuba by force. Chavez cannot do anything at all against the US, nor can the US do anything, militarily, against a major country in the Western hemisphere. It has to act according to International law and treaties those countries have signed. What happened with Argentina when it tried to take the Malvinas by force? It was severely beaten by the UK with the support of the US. Why that? Simply because resorting to the use of force to solve a dispute, in the Western hemisphere -this bastion of civilization in the middle of those savages -:)- it is against the Treaty of Rio de Janeiro signed by the member of the OAS (Organization of the American States) Fidel Castro will die in power but there will never be an attack against it. Bay of the Pigs was much a bunch of Cubans, whom Kennedy could not support. It was not an American attack. And the US, was THE US at that time. Not this one that is returning fats to its natural size. What Cuba one day has to pay is the compensation for the expropriated assets of the US citizens and companies. All according to International law. Want to stop the US? Look, it works like that. US decide: Let’s do some harm against Brazil. Someone will say whose countries will support us in doing that? They look around and count: Zero!! Let’s go and for it single handed. Let’s just send in a few ships and block their harbors. In 24 hours the country will be in its knees. The amred forces are enough for one sldier ebery 200m and nothing behind him. Piece of cake. "Wait a moment!!" Someone would say. "How much Coca-cola, Johnson and Johnson diapers, Ford, GM cars, IBM mainframes, Boeings, Caterpillars, software and services we sell there?" Someone at back of the room raise his hands and say: "A lot?" Yes precisely. A lot of money is done between these two countries and you are going to mess with the country that helps you make money? That's is not the only problem, the Secretary of State would say: "Tomorrow morning, 150 US ambassadors, all over the world, would be summoned by the respective foreign offices to answer the question (in diplomatic terms): "Is your country out of its fucking mind?" Oh, by the way, Brazil is happily enriching Uranium. All legal and according to International law and regulations.